I’m fine with that too. I’m not disputing or puting (?) anything at all. Just hoping we can find a place for NetCAT and that forceably disbandening it is in nobody’s interest.
Gj On Monday, June 25, 2018, Emilian Bold <[email protected]> wrote: > > Their > > go/nogo should simply be done before we start the PPMC vote, where > they're > > able to vote too if they like. > > This is a separate topic. I dispute the idea that NetCAT should have a > go/nogo about what the PPMC should vote on. > > --emi > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On 25 June 2018 4:48 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I can see the advantage of combining the two but I don't see any > > > > disadvantages in having a separate dedicated testing community. Their > > > > go/nogo should simply be done before we start the PPMC vote, where > they're > > > > able to vote too if they like. > > > > Gj > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Kai Uwe Pel [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Sorry mistyped ... I fully agree with Luca's suggestions to have a > > > > > > separate list for NetCat. > > > > > > K. > > > > > > On 6/25/2018 2:48 PM, Kai Uwe Pel wrote: > > > > > > > Honestly, > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Kai > > > > > > > > On 6/25/2018 1:46 PM, Luca Mambretti wrote: > > > > > > > > > My personal opinion is that I would prefer NetCat to stay a > separate > > > > > > > > > > list, mainly because of focus, it's true that using proper > subjects helps > > > > > > > > > > but to me community acceptance, and development are separate > things, and I > > > > > > > > > > do think feedback from the user community should be treated > differently > > > > > > > > > > than feedback from the developer community. > > > > > > > > > > That said something from NetCat might be of interest to dev, but > most > > > > > > > > > > probably not the other way around (at least that is my feeling on > this), so > > > > > > > > > > maybe a good compromise would be to setup some sort of redirect so > that > > > > > > > > > > NetCat emails would also be seen by developement and if something > is deemed > > > > > > > > > > interesting by developement then by replying to the mail both > lists would > > > > > > > > > > be involved. > > > > > > > > > > For voting purposes if NetCat has to be included in the voting > process > > > > > > > > > > then the voting email might be sent also to the NetCat list, but > that could > > > > > > > > > > also be handled using a proper acceptance survey like the ones > that were > > > > > > > > > > previously used in the Oracle era, but that maybe is not really in > line > > > > > > > > > > with Apache policies. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Luca. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Messaggio originale ----- > > > > > > > > > > Da: "Neil C Smith" [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > A: [email protected], "netcat" < > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Inviato: Lunedì, 25 giugno 2018 10:35:59 > > > > > > > > > > Oggetto: Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing > list > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 23:07, Wade Chandler > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That said, it would be good to see the netcat members view on > it. One > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > certainly contribute there without all the dev@ noise if they > like it, > > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > from their view, it may not be so simple. I really think that > should > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > some weight. > > > > > > > > > > Re-adding netcat@ (ironically! ;-) ) > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you that the opinion of the netcat@ list is > important. > > > > > > > > > > If part of the point of NetCAT is to engage active / experienced > users > > > > > > > > > > in testing, then does bringing that conversation into dev@ > discourage > > > > > > > > > > that or not? > > > > > > > > > > It makes sense that everyone on dev@ is subscribed to netcat@, but > > > > > > > > > > does the reverse also apply? Be interested in the input of anyone > on > > > > > > > > > > netcat@ who is not on the dev@ list, and the reasons behind that, > > > > > > > > > > before any vote on this. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [email protected] > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected] > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected] > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
