that must be for all the stuff that gets in with no
discussion on this list, is done.
also I doubt new developers read this list since most post on the user
list.
lastly I don't think what jacques is saying is something that should
not the said out in the open.
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Scott Gray sent the following on 3/7/2010 5:45 AM:
> Jacques, you are mis-interpreting the contents of that ASF document and I
> really would prefer it if you kept your thoughts to the private list. This
> way we can correct you before you start scaring people away from marketing
> the project for us.
>
> Thank you
> Scott
>
> On 7/03/2010, at 2:20 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> This could be so easy :/
>>
>> Hans agreed to give the credentials to all commiters but he asked us to send
>> him a demand.
>> We don't need to ask, if it's open Hans sould send all commiters the
>> credential to share apache_ofbiz Twitter account.
>> I should be pretty clear at this moment. The works "Apache" "OFBiz" and the
>> phrase "Apache OFBiz" are ASF trademarks:
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ (I use references to sections of
>> this page in the following)
>> So they can't be used in domain name (cf. section "Using Apache trademarks
>> in domain names"). Hans can't use http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz alone as
>> an individual or for his company.
>> So please, for the last time, Hans before I ring Shane Curcuru's bell
>> (current VP, Apache Brand Management), simply send credentials to all
>> commiters and the war is over (Note that, though I don't think it's the way
>> to go, I already asked you to send me credentials as you suggested, but did
>> not receive anything yet). Then I suggest to put the button like you did
>> Hans. It's a *great idea* and I'm sure you will appreciate to have an help
>> on feeding the tweets as you already suggested.
>>
>> http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz is a special case because not only it uses
>> ASF trademark in domain name but it also shows it on the page, along with
>> OFBiz logo not going back to http://ofbiz.apache.org/ (cf. section "Using
>> the Apache Foo (and similar) graphic logos")
>> But I don't see a reason why the rule for the domain should not apply also to
>> http://twitter.com/ofbiz_help
>> http://twitter.com/ofbizbyhotwax
>> And Hans just followed the path actually... (is there other cases?)
>>
>> Some other points which are related and worth to be noted
>> Hotwax Media must care about how they use the OFBiz logo in their pages at
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com. The rule is that if it's not adapted (like Hans
>> did for OFBiz in Thailand at , it should only link back to
>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/
>> Same for the footer of http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/main (the "OFBiz
>> feather" used for the tweet could be ok if all commiters get credentials and
>> the PMC agree is the OFBiz official Tweeter account). Now
>> http://www.ofbiz.in.th/ is wrong also as long it's not on the ASF infra
>> (ofbiz should not be used in domain name outsided of ASF infrastructure, is
>> there other cases?)
>>
>> It's time to clean the house, before all this becomes unmanageable
>> (proliferation). I made my best to explain the rules, if you see a flaw in
>> my reasoning please correct me. If you see other cases that should be
>> corrected, chime in, it's your duty!
>>
>> And please also understand that it's really not pleaseant for me (or anyone
>> else I guess) to play the cop and spend so much time on this (for persons
>> out of PMC, we already shared some about this privately). I dot it only
>> because I'm a third party (ie not HWM affiliated nor Ant Web) and I like
>> things to be clear and no injustices prevail. If we continue to ignore this
>> facts they will finally blow up in our faces (as this Tweeter account issue
>> being to show) and nobody will win anything. There are rules, why not simply
>> follow them, is that so hard?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[email protected]>
>>> Hans, please revert this one too - sorry. It wouldn't make sense for all
>>> service providers to do this - so please let's not keep doing this stuff.
>>>
>>> What i would recommend for this kind of stuff, if we need to list it at
>>> all, would be to enhance the service providers page on the wiki. I
>>> mentioned this earlier but maybe we should add a full page, linked from
>>> the service provider page, where people can put this type of info? I
>>> personally think this is what your own website is for, but I'm all for
>>> enhancing everyone's ability to get the word out.
>>>
>>> What does everyone think of that as a place to promote yourself?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ruppert
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Scott Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm only going to send one email about this, If anyone else cares they
>>>> can push it.
>>>>
>>>> This is news:
>>>>> <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz/"; target="_blank">Now OFBiz
>>>>> on <b>TWITTER</b>, follow the news from an enduser perspective</a>, up to
>>>>> one tweet per day.
>>>> A link to your home page is not:
>>>>> You can also promote OFBiz at your site with this news, look <a
>>>>> href="http://www.antwebsystems.com";>here for an example.</a>
>>>> Why you are constantly trying to push the boundaries I have no idea.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 6/03/2010, at 6:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Author: hansbak
>>>>> Date: Sun Mar 7 01:14:19 2010
>>>>> New Revision: 919905
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=919905&view=rev
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> announcing the ofbiz twitter news now in line with the other news
>>>>> offerings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=919905&r1=919904&r2=919905&view=diff
>>>>> === === ===
>>>>> =====================================================================
>>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original)
>>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Sun Mar 7 01:14:19 2010
>>>>> @@ -237,6 +237,7 @@
>>>>>
>>>>> <h2>In the News</h2>
>>>>> <ul>
>>>>> + <li><a href="http://www.twitter.com/ apache_ofbiz/"
>>>>> target="_blank">Now OFBiz on <b>TWITTER</b>, follow the news from an
>>>>> enduser perspective</a>, up to one tweet per day. You can also promote
>>>>> OFBiz at your site with this news, look <a
>>>>> href="http://www.antwebsystems.com";>here for an example.</a></li>
>>>>> <li><a
>>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-implementing-a-product-pdf-export/
>>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Implementing a Product PDF
>>>>> export</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/"
>>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li>
>>>>> <li><a
>>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-implementing-a-product-csv-export/
>>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Implementing a Product CSV
>>>>> export</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/"
>>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li>
>>>>> <li><a
>>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-enhancing-the-product-list-screen/
>>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Enhancing the Product list
>>>>> screen</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/"
>>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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