I'm constantly amazed by how little you know about how Apache projects operate.
http://www.apache.org/ contains an absolute a lot of information and more than anything I suggest you read the pages under "How it works". I can't imagine why you would possibly be enjoying this thread but I guess some people are just that way inclined. Regards Scott On 7/03/2010, at 11:04 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hi Scott: > What private list? I thought this was a transparent process that everyone > should have access to. > BTW, you guys are a real "hoot". I'm enjoying every bit of this thread. > > Regards, > Ruth > ---------------------------------------------------- > Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" > [email protected] > > Scott Gray wrote: >> Jacques, you are mis-interpreting the contents of that ASF document and I >> really would prefer it if you kept your thoughts to the private list. This >> way we can correct you before you start scaring people away from marketing >> the project for us. >> >> Thank you >> Scott >> >> On 7/03/2010, at 2:20 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> This could be so easy :/ >>> >>> Hans agreed to give the credentials to all commiters but he asked us to >>> send him a demand. >>> We don't need to ask, if it's open Hans sould send all commiters the >>> credential to share apache_ofbiz Twitter account. >>> I should be pretty clear at this moment. The works "Apache" "OFBiz" and the >>> phrase "Apache OFBiz" are ASF trademarks: >>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ (I use references to sections of >>> this page in the following) >>> So they can't be used in domain name (cf. section "Using Apache trademarks >>> in domain names"). Hans can't use http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz alone as >>> an individual or for his company. >>> So please, for the last time, Hans before I ring Shane Curcuru's bell >>> (current VP, Apache Brand Management), simply send credentials to all >>> commiters and the war is over (Note that, though I don't think it's the way >>> to go, I already asked you to send me credentials as you suggested, but did >>> not receive anything yet). Then I suggest to put the button like you did >>> Hans. It's a *great idea* and I'm sure you will appreciate to have an help >>> on feeding the tweets as you already suggested. >>> >>> http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz is a special case because not only it uses >>> ASF trademark in domain name but it also shows it on the page, along with >>> OFBiz logo not going back to http://ofbiz.apache.org/ (cf. section "Using >>> the Apache Foo (and similar) graphic logos") >>> But I don't see a reason why the rule for the domain should not apply also >>> to >>> http://twitter.com/ofbiz_help >>> http://twitter.com/ofbizbyhotwax >>> And Hans just followed the path actually... (is there other cases?) >>> >>> Some other points which are related and worth to be noted >>> Hotwax Media must care about how they use the OFBiz logo in their pages at >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com. The rule is that if it's not adapted (like Hans >>> did for OFBiz in Thailand at , it should only link back to >>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/ >>> Same for the footer of http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/main (the >>> "OFBiz feather" used for the tweet could be ok if all commiters get >>> credentials and the PMC agree is the OFBiz official Tweeter account). Now >>> http://www.ofbiz.in.th/ is wrong also as long it's not on the ASF infra >>> (ofbiz should not be used in domain name outsided of ASF infrastructure, is >>> there other cases?) >>> >>> It's time to clean the house, before all this becomes unmanageable >>> (proliferation). I made my best to explain the rules, if you see a flaw in >>> my reasoning please correct me. If you see other cases that should be >>> corrected, chime in, it's your duty! >>> >>> And please also understand that it's really not pleaseant for me (or anyone >>> else I guess) to play the cop and spend so much time on this (for persons >>> out of PMC, we already shared some about this privately). I dot it only >>> because I'm a third party (ie not HWM affiliated nor Ant Web) and I like >>> things to be clear and no injustices prevail. If we continue to ignore this >>> facts they will finally blow up in our faces (as this Tweeter account issue >>> being to show) and nobody will win anything. There are rules, why not >>> simply follow them, is that so hard? >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Hans, please revert this one too - sorry. It wouldn't make sense for all >>>> service providers to do this - so please let's not keep doing this stuff. >>>> >>>> What i would recommend for this kind of stuff, if we need to list it at >>>> all, would be to enhance the service providers page on the wiki. I >>>> mentioned this earlier but maybe we should add a full page, linked from >>>> the service provider page, where people can put this type of info? I >>>> personally think this is what your own website is for, but I'm all for >>>> enhancing everyone's ability to get the word out. >>>> >>>> What does everyone think of that as a place to promote yourself? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ruppert >>>> -- >>>> Tim Ruppert >>>> HotWax Media >>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>> >>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>> >>>> On Mar 6, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Scott Gray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm only going to send one email about this, If anyone else cares they >>>>> can push it. >>>>> >>>>> This is news: >>>>> >>>>>> <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz/"; target="_blank">Now >>>>>> OFBiz on <b>TWITTER</b>, follow the news from an enduser >>>>>> perspective</a>, up to one tweet per day. >>>>>> >>>>> A link to your home page is not: >>>>> >>>>>> You can also promote OFBiz at your site with this news, look <a >>>>>> href="http://www.antwebsystems.com";>here for an example.</a> >>>>>> >>>>> Why you are constantly trying to push the boundaries I have no idea. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> On 6/03/2010, at 6:14 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Author: hansbak >>>>>> Date: Sun Mar 7 01:14:19 2010 >>>>>> New Revision: 919905 >>>>>> >>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=919905&view=rev >>>>>> Log: >>>>>> announcing the ofbiz twitter news now in line with the other news >>>>>> offerings. >>>>>> >>>>>> Modified: >>>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html >>>>>> URL: >>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=919905&r1=919904&r2=919905&view=diff >>>>>> === === === >>>>>> ===================================================================== >>>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original) >>>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Sun Mar 7 01:14:19 2010 >>>>>> @@ -237,6 +237,7 @@ >>>>>> >>>>>> <h2>In the News</h2> >>>>>> <ul> >>>>>> + <li><a href="http://www.twitter.com/ apache_ofbiz/" >>>>>> target="_blank">Now OFBiz on <b>TWITTER</b>, follow the news from an >>>>>> enduser perspective</a>, up to one tweet per day. You can also promote >>>>>> OFBiz at your site with this news, look <a >>>>>> href="http://www.antwebsystems.com";>here for an example.</a></li> >>>>>> <li><a >>>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-implementing-a-product-pdf-export/ >>>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Implementing a Product PDF >>>>>> export</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" >>>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li> >>>>>> <li><a >>>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-implementing-a-product-csv-export/ >>>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Implementing a Product CSV >>>>>> export</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" >>>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li> >>>>>> <li><a >>>>>> href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blog/ofbiz-tutorial-enhancing-the-product-list-screen/ >>>>>> " target="_blank">OFBiz Tutorial – Enhancing the Product list >>>>>> screen</a> on <a href="http://www.hotwaxmedia.com/apache-ofbiz-blo g/" >>>>>> target="_blank">HotWax Media Blog</a></li> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> >>
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