Hi Jacopo,

From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Hi Jacques,

On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Jacopo,

I have just added this sentence to
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan#ReleasePlan-GeneralReleasePolicies

* Because it needs too much work, at some point older releases will not be supported by the community (trunk patches not backported)

I have also noticed this sentence (just before the one I added)

* Each new release tag and pre-built package will be represented by a third position version number change (since February 2009 seems that we will prefer to use the revision number for that)

I like the idea of adding the revision number rather than a third position version number, maybe it's not worth changing now but we could stick with it for future releases? (It relates to this thead http://markmail.org/message/3xhnpbbmceg5hdg7)


We could, but the release name convention we are using has been already changed too many times (and we ended up with a bad one imo) so my preference would be to postpone any decision to change it another time unless we all want and agree upon a much better one.

OK, not a problem with me. The same (than Bruno) was also asked later by Ruth 
later (in another thread) BTW...
What don't you like in the release name convention? The Ubuntu way?


About the download page, looks good to me, some questions:

*Something is not clear to me
<<Apache OFBiz 10.04
This release contains all the features of the trunk up to April 2010 and since then 
has been stabilized with bug fixes.>>
So it means that the zip is automatically updated from the repo (when changed) and always last revision accessible to mirrors, right? Same for 09.04.01, I guess?

No we cannot do this: all the files from the download page must be official 
releases (i.e. voted for release by the PMC).
As regards the 10.04, the release date is mentioned in the next sentence:

" It is our current "stable" release, and has been officially released in January 
2011".

As regards 09.04.01, the release date is mentione here:

"Apache OFBiz 09.04.01 is the current and latest release of the 09.04 series; it is 
a bug fix release, issued in January 2011"

OK, thanks for clarifying

* Under the Snapshots section, I'd like to add some words about svn repo, trunk and releases branches. Do you think it makes sense (it's not releases but could interest, make quicker links for developers)

No please, do not add download links etc because all the information if this page should only contain official files; in fact the snapshot section is already an exception to this rule that for now it is acceptable. But you may add a sentence to point the user to the https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-source-repository-and-access.html page... even if we may even want to consider to remove the snapshot section at all from the "download" page, and add a link to the snapshot page from the https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-source-repository-and-access.html instead.

Then, I think the https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-source-repository-and-access.html page is clear enough. I'd not move the snapshot section except if it really hurts someone there? Mmm though.... maybe it would remove some confusion for end users... Opinions, before we close this thread?

Jacques

Jacopo


Thanks

Jacques



From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Jacques, all,

I did a series of changes (rev. 1180638) to the text and formatting of the "Download" page and now it should be easier to understand what to download and how things are structured; I have tried to incorporate your feedback.
When you can, please have a look (and a double look to typos and grammar).

Kind regards,

Jacopo

On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, jacques.le.r...@spamcop.net wrote:

Thanks Jacopo,

I had the feeling I was missing something. I plenty agree with your suggestions. Could we not had a word on this page about "live" branches (vs freezed/zipped releases) and a link to repo (vs downloads mirrors)? I'm currently in vacation for a week, so I will not
work on this soon...

Jacques

From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Thank you Jacques, please see my note below:

On Oct 5, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Maybe we should make more clear somewhere that releases like 10.04.01 or 
09.04.02 are only tagged revisions in respective
branches
(or did I miss some places where this is clearly explained?). In other words only branches are still evolving when releases are
freezed.

This is explainedin the official download page (where releases are published):

http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html

but of course we could improve the information there; I was thinking to better separate the latest release 10.04 from the older
ones and also, inside a series, decrease the fonts of the older releases.

Kind regards,

Jacopo



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