It's borderline.  I'd say, yes, Oracle might say no.  We could certainly try it.

Though, I think I distracted us for the more important consideration.

Let's assume TomEE+ was also certified, would we want to move JAX-WS from 
TomEE+ to plain TomEE?


-David

On May 4, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Mark Struberg wrote:

> Disabling the JAX-WS functionality by just removing the 
> ServletListener/Filter for it would be ok?
> Or still not?
> 
> 
> LieGrue,
> strub
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Blevins <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]; Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 11:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: JAX-RS in Web Profile
>> 
>> I've spoken directly with Oracle's Java EE licensing rep on this topic.
>> 
>> The reason we made TomEE+ was so we could take the uncertified parts out in 
>> order for Oracle to give us our certification.  They explicitly said they 
>> would 
>> not otherwise.
>> 
>> They also checked our website and require that we add the exact phase "NOT 
>> Java EE6 Certified" next to TomEE+.  JBoss had the same text on their 
>> downloads page for their contains-non-passing-code distro.
>> 
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Mark Struberg wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't think this is correct!
>>> 
>>> JBossAS7.0 also had some non web-profile features which were _known_ to be 
>> incomplete/not spec compliant/buggy.
>>> But that was not a problem, because those things are _not_ in the 
>> web-profile!
>>> As long as you don't claim JAX-WS or full-profile compatibility it is 
>> imo not a problem.
>>> 
>>> It would just be an 'additional' feature which is not officially 
>> supported by the release.
>>> We can of course add in the Readme that 
>>> 
>>> 'despite being packaged, JAX-WS is not officially part of this TomEE 
>> release and did not pass any EE TCK.'
>>> 
>>> 
>>> LieGrue
>>> strub
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Cc: 
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 10:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: JAX-RS in Web Profile
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 4, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> +1 to add it
>>>>> -1 to split, it will make our build more complicated (again) and 
>> our
>>>>> dependency management a mess
>>>> 
>>>> Can you clarify on the "split".  You understand that we 
>> can't add 
>>>> JAX-WS to the Web Profile unless it is certified, so if we don't 
>> split them 
>>>> it essentially means we cannot add JAX-RS.
>>>> 
>>>> We'd have to get JAX-WS passing the TCK in TomEE+ before we could 
>> add it to 
>>>> TomEE.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -David
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 4 mai 2012 21:37, "David Blevins" 
>>>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> JAX-RS is being added to the Java EE 7 Web Profile.  Given that 
>> and the
>>>>>> fact that many of the recent user questions are about JAX-RS, 
>> perhaps 
>>>> we
>>>>>> should consider adding it to our Web Profile distro now rather 
>> than 
>>>> later.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The big question in my mind is, how small can we get it?  Can 
>> we do it
>>>>>> with CXF in a way that doesn't bring in JAX-WS?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If we pull in JAX-WS too, then we have to certify it and that 
>> is a 
>>>> major
>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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