Michael, I find it really tedious to actually link to a dev list thread on a
ticket because usually I've just sent the mail and it's not visible yet.
Also I tend to have trouble finding the correct google group via google.
(Apparently I'm not a power user of the google.)

What is the best way to find a permalink to a dev list post? Do we have a
custom search for the lists?

-Darius (by phone)

On Sep 16, 2011 1:24 PM, "Michael Downey" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Roger et al,



On Friday, September 16, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Friedman, Roger (CDC/CGH/DGHA)
(CTR) wrote:
>
> Is ther...
If my understanding of history is correct, our approach came from Karl
Fogel's book, "Producing Open Source Software", an often-cited resource used
by many projects. In the section "No Conversations in the Bug Tracker",
Fogel points out [0] the important issues you raised again in your mail.
However, I point out something in that section that we often overlook:

Always link to the mailing list thread from the issue, when you choose to
post to the mailing list. It's still important for someone following the
issue to be able to reach the discussion, even if the issue itself isn't the
forum of discussion. The person who starts the thread may find this
laborious, but open source is fundamentally a writer-responsible culture:
it's much more important to make things easy for the tens or hundreds of
people who may read the bug than for the three or five people writing about
it.

It's fine to take important conclusions or summaries from the list
discussion and paste them into the issue, if that will make things
convenient for readers. A common idiom is to start a list discussion, put a
link to the thread in the issue, and then when the discussion finishes,
paste the final summary into the issue (along with a link to the message
containing that summary), so someone browsing the issue can easily see what
conclusion was reached without having to click to somewhere else. Note that
the usual "two masters" data duplication problem does not exist here,
because both archives and issue comments are usually static, unchangeable
data anyway.

These are good points and I think we should work harder to ensure that
issues are updated with links to the discussions, wiki pages, etc., that
come out of the design process.


>
> Do we need to have separate design-phase and build-phase tickets?  We also
need a way to move b...
I feel, generally speaking, that splitting an issue for design is not
necessary since we have a design state. Issues can also reach that design
phase after work has begun, if necessary. That said, in some cases it may be
necessary to have multiple issues. JIRA can link issues with different
relationships for this reason and should that scenario become necessary,
it's important to keep them linked.


>
> Where is the state diagram for the Jira process?
Yes, it's posted on the "JIRA Issue Workflow" page on the OpenMRS Wiki.
[2].

Michael

[0] http://producingoss.com/en/bug-tracker-usage.html
[1] https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/JIRA+Issue+Workflow


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