On 2 March 2013 02:27, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote:
> Right, thanks. I talk to Ward (Cunningham) practically every week, and I > still confuse his name with Ward Christensen when typing it in text. > Christensen was a well-known CPM-80 open-source contributor from the > 1980s. (In his day job, he was an IBM tech rep.) > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 16:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org > Subject: Re: Strategic Planning: Website > > His last name is Cunningham, not Christensen, and I enjoyed his bar camp > talk quite a bit at this year's Apachecon. > Pity the AOO contingent was small this time round. > > On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I don't think entropy is the proper term. > > > > The physicists version that I learned was in the following form: > > > > 1. You can't win. > > 2. You can't even break even. > > 3. And you can't get out of the game. > > > > I think an appropriate concern, here, has to do with technical debt. > The longer the technical debt goes unpaid, the more interest must be paid > by someone (often the users). > > > > The term was introduced by Ward Christensen (inventor of the Wiki, among > other things). Martin Fowler has a nice perspective that discriminates the > different ways that technical debt arises (including, "if it was known then > what is known now ... ." > > See <http://martinfowler.com/bliki/TechnicalDebt.html> > > and <http://martinfowler.com/bliki/TechnicalDebtQuadrant.html>. > > > > - Dennis > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donald Whytock [mailto:dwhyt...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 08:16 > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Strategic Planning: Website > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> I'd love to hear your thoughts, and see your improvements or > corrections. > > > > "Entropy. The longer we go without solving some of the above problems > > the worse things will get." > > > > I'd like to see a slightly-less-apocalyptic wording for this, in light > > of the public exposure and scrutiny AOO seems to receive. Perhaps: > > > > "Entropy. Letting problems persist is easy, and gets easier the > > longer it's allowed to happen. We need to be proactive in not only > > recognizing the problems, but also working to solve them." > > > > Don > > > > I am not sure if this should go into the document or just be an information in here: I have had a look at the 2 wikis supported by infra. If we want to move away from mwiki, I think it would be relatively easy to move all content to moin, where as cwiki would be very hard (too limited). Of course if we moved someone should make a fresh layout (which is possible, since setup files are pr project). Given the circumstances I would promote a move away from mwiki, in order to move forward. Jan I.
