Sorry for top posting.

I have been asked by a PMC member to reopen the discussion about the board
report.

Background is that after the report was submitted, a ASF Member (not board
member and not part of our community)
felt that I as new AOO chair, had formulated the report too negative and
against the wishes of the community
(ASF Members can read board@ to get the precise wording).

I have sent the report exactly, as it is in our Wiki, only appended with  a
"for board eyes only" statement, that has
been thoroughly discussed on private@. I hope nobody in the community feels
they have not been given a fair
chance to ask for changes.

I politely ask the people who now wants the report changed, to show how the
report should look, and let the
community discuss. If the community wants the report formulated
differently, I will be happy to replace the
current report.

We do have a timing challenge, and need to act fast before the reporting
window closes, alternatively I can
replace the report with a short note stating the I (as chair) have removed
it, because the community need more
time to discuss the content.

rgds
jan I.





On 4 April 2015 at 11:48, Andrea Pescetti <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 01/04/2015 jan i wrote:
>
>> On 1 April 2015 at 09:33, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> Big thanks are not for the report. But still very appropriate for the
>>> list... so big thanks to who worked for events! ...
>>>
>> Actually before I became member I was mentioned in 5-6 board reports like
>> that
>>
>
> For project reports I find it more appropriate to simply give credit, like
> "X Y organized an OpenOffice event" as opposed to "Big thanks to X Y for
> organizing an OpenOffice event". But the version now online is OK.
>
>  I use AOO on purpose in reports, because is the
>> project, I use Apache openOffice when referring to something that includes
>> our ecosystem, and openOffice when referring to the office suite and
>> ecosystem in general.
>>
>
> I'm not sure about this. It is just wording after all, nothing to change
> in the report; but Apache OpenOffice is OpenOffice and OpenOffice is Apache
> OpenOffice (and nothing else); if someone wants to speak about "OpenOffice
> and others" then "OpenOffice ecosystem" is more explicit and clear (even if
> I don't love this terminology).
>
>  I agree that we are committed to bringing out the release (changed text to
>> reflect that) and that we could and should resume some work here, but that
>> is future and the report is about the last 3 months, so I prefer to keep
>> the "no work is active".
>>
>
> Well, I agree it's time to stop talking about what to write in the report
> and to resume some of the work I had already sent here weeks ago...
>
>  Have a look at the changes, and let me know if they are ok to you.
>>
>
> They are OK. My remaining concerns are:
> - Title and link: this is the "2015-Apr" report, not the March one.
> - Forum is not mentioned anywhere; at least a sentence like "The official,
> volunteer-run, OpenOffice support Forums remain very popular with users"
> would be appropriate.
>
> And thanks a lot for giving the community time to discuss the report at
> length.
>
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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