On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hm. I think the issue below is serious. And one we can address. But do
> others think that way or believe otherwise?


Not sure how we can really address this, considering our challenges making
a new desktop release.

Rgds
jan i

>
> louis
> > On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Guy Waterval <waterval....@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Or have you not noticed that there are
> >>> precious few native (as opposed to virtualised) open-source
> productivity
> >>> tools to be found ready for the enterprise?
> >
> > to rephrase: productivity software, especially for enterprise, is
> overwhelmingly dominated by proprietary apps sold by very large
> multinational corporations. The apps available are often "free," as in beer
> but not free as in speech. They are not open source. It does not matter if
> the operating system is Android or iOS or whatever, though there are some
> differences, at least in the marginal OSs, which represent a minute
> fraction of the total used.
> >
> > What this means is that as tablets (however imagined) are brought into
> the enterprise (public or private sector), open source is almost entirely
> absent. Yes, many apps use open source languages but so what? The UX model
> promoted by the smart, mobile device shuts out user intervention, with some
> exception, and there seems to be nothing organised that I can see that’s
> trying to change this arrangement and make it easier to create, distribute
> and even promote open source productivity apps on mobile devices.
> >
> > Yes, I am aware that tablets are falling out of popularity, but I also
> am aware that the tablet as imagined by Apple and incarnated in the iPad,
> was designed and is still envisioned as a consumer entertainment device,
> not as a work device (though that is changing) and that efforts to
> insinuate the tablet form factor into enterprise, as Microsoft has tried,
> have not succeeded. However, the mobile device is succeeding in areas where
> investment capital is less visible and it is likely to be the preferred
> mode for the billions that will be coming fresh to school, work, and other
> areas where computing devices are de rigeur (now or soon). And these users,
> in Africa, Latin America, and  the rest of the world, rich or poor, will be
> using… proprietary software.
> >
> > So, although the situation on the desktop (and by this one means also
> the laptop, of course; one refers here to the UX not hardware) is generally
> not bad for open source, that’s not so for the mobile UX. I doubt very much
> that Ubuntu or Moz. will put a dent into hard proprietary wave. What would,
> however, would be mobile apps that can work smoothly with existing desktop
> productivity software installations. Like Corinthia.
> >
> > best
> > louis
>
>

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