On 12/31/2015 11:49 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 31.12.2015 um 19:53 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
On 12/31/2015 10:30 AM, Max Merbald wrote:
Hi,

let me say a few words on this too:

I have had the autosave option enabled for ages and I've never
experienced a problem I'd relate to this. In the contrary, it has helped
me a few times to retrieve a document I've had a problem with (such as
losing it for some reason or other. I think users will benefit from the
autosave being enabled by default.

I also have autosave enabled, and have not experienced any problems with
it personally.


Both of you work with ODF and export to foreign formats when necessary.

Bill M wrote:
  The only change I made was to
turn off the question about save in ODF format as I send it to other people
in RTF or Microsoft DOC format.

Bill M uses OpenOffice as an editor for foreign file formats which is
the anti-feature that deserves to be disabled completely. All documents
should be edited in ODF. Always. When you save another version in
foreign file format, the current document should remain the ODF source.
Foreign files should be loaded read-only and saved as ODF before editing.

As an AOO user, I would sadly miss the ability to directly edit foreign
file formats - they are often effectively the interchange format for
collaborations. I want to see ASAP if I am using some formatting that
cannot be preserved in the file's primary format.

I suspect I am not the only user who would go with LibreOffice if it
allows me to edit MS-Word documents directly and OpenOffice does not.

Another misconception is that too many users believe that the "backup"
feature of their office suite ensures a reasonable level of data safety.
In fact they never run any backup utility at all.

The term "backup" should be avoided alltogether in favour of "crash
recovery". Can we really assure that our crash recovery tool works with
all supported file formats including the foreign ones?

I strongly agree that the feature AOO should be providing is "crash
recovery" not "backup".

I would think some good general design principles, such as never
deleting a file until after its replacement has been completely written,
should make it possible to support all file formats. However, I have not
yet studied the issue, and there may be barriers I am not aware of.

Isn't a lot of this the sort of information that should be being
collected in Bugzilla. I am about to start searching the mail archives
to see what I can learn about the history, but a single Bugzilla number
would be more convenient.



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