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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 19:27
> To: priv...@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)
> Hi Dennis,
> I don't have objections to this topic, but I feel I need to make a few
> suggestions before this thread is either ignored or a confused mess.
> (1) a long, official policy statement like this is best put into a wiki
> page where many can edit it and it can be an easy discussion and not a
> confused email mess that is started with something that is tl:dr. The
> maturity model was recently developed by the comdev participants on the
> wiki and email
> Effectively. This document needs to be developed in the same way.

Good idea.  I see no reason not to follow that path.  This was my 

I was not intending an official policy statement.  It is a discussion request, 
with some background information for perspective.  (Oh, I had to use orcmid@ 
a.o because of the BCC, since that's how I am on private@ though.  I see the 
confusion I causes doing that.)

> (2) why is this cross posted to private and DEV? To do so implies that
> there is some other non-open discussion in parallel. You and I have run
> into unexpected results from this strange cross posting practice of
> yours (hi Simon)

It was not cross-posted.  I intentionally did not do that.  The BCC was to 
private@, just as I am doing now.  It was an easy way to provide a heads-up to 
the PMC for a discussion to notice on dev@, since some don't siphon through all 
of the dev@ material regularly.  It is not on dev@ as a cross-posting.

> (3) I think that working towards being able to release rather than patch
> as Patricia has suggested is our best way to solve the security issue.
> The quick patch is not much faster and has been proven to be more of a
> challenge then kick starting the broken build process.

That would be interesting to determine.  Now that we have released a Hotfix, I 
think we can get it done more quickly in the future, but it is certainly not as 
good as simply offering the community a full update to install.

That is a different subject though.  It would be great to have that outcome.

> Regards,
> Dave
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Here is what a careful retirement of Apache OpenOffice could look
> like.
> >
> >              A. PERSPECTIVE
> >                 1. Code Base
> >                 3. Development Support
> >                 4. Public-Project Community Interfaces
> >                 5. Social Media Presence
> >                 6. Project Management Committee
> >                 7. Branding
> >
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