> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 

> the situation as I see it (I am no developer) is, that we need
> "developers, developers, developers, developers ... ".

> [...]

This is not wrong, but ...

Developers will participate primarily in projects which remain publicly well.

If we look at LibreOffice and compare:
LibreOffice, that is *good* (not more) software and *excellent* public 
OpenOffice, that is *exellent* software and *pretty bad* public relations.

We need to understand evaluate software as the normal user: their first scale 
is essential to public presentation of a software, and only secondarily the 
purely technical characteristics of a software.

We need to understand the difference between a software such as the Apache 
Webserver https://httpd.apache.org/ (a software for experts) and OpenOffice (a 
software for end users).

The problem of AOO is a Specific:

many people who have worked for OOo (.org!) done their way and OOo has accepted 
the results and the work integrated into the project.

The operation of Apache is too formalistic for such people, for example, for 
the local German community of OpenOffice. At the time of OpenOffice.org many 
helpers did their part, because there were few organizational hurdles.

I have been working for many years for the PrOOo-box 
(http://www.prooo-box.org), at the very beginning was that a purely private 
project, BUT it was always a project to support OpenOffice.
The community of OOo has recognized this and has the PrOOo-box as part of 
OpenOffice accepted (more precisely, as part of the German community of OO).

In Apache, however we are only "third-party". No question, the classification 
as "third-party" is formally correct, because it conforms to the rules of 
Apache, but it inhibits the practical work.

*It is urgently needed to give local communities more autonomy, which would 
forward the work.*

Let me say for my own:
I work more than 10 years for OpenOffice (.org and Apache) and I am all the 
time loyal to OpenOffice. I am now a committer of Apache, and of course I 
respect the rules of Apache ... BUT in practice, there are task where you have 
to act, and it is not always time to comply with formalities.

Last month, the PrOOo-box was published in a large German IT magazine [1]. This 
was a great success for the PrOOo-box. I would have preferred if it had been a 
success for OpenOffice. 

What i mean?
We (the german community, and all local communities) need the opportunity to 
speak locally for OpenOffice. It is undisputed that this must be coordinated 
with the international Apache OpenOffice community, but this coordination can 
only be done in the form of a frame, not for every single little action, 
because we have no time for the coordination of every detail.



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