Oh, and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-3676

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
>
> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do agree
> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
>
> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
> date?
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>
>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging patches
>> as text via e-mail.  I am not sure what binary patch support Linus plans
>> or what it would help other than being more compact.  One disadvantage is
>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the patch
>> itself in a text editor.  I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after only
>> glancing at the text of the patch.
>>
>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features.  'svn patch' is
>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned support
>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.  Subversion is
>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, for
>> example.
>>
>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
>> >
>> >I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
>> >
>> >Dmitriy
>> >
>> >On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
>> ><russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Using text patches is the problem as I see it.  We should be using...
>> >> something else.  Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
>> >> patches?
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
>> >><sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
>> upload
>> >>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
>> >>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
>> >>>
>> >>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
>> >>>svn,
>> >>> but that is trivial.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <g...@apache.org
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have git)
>> >>>is
>> >>> >+1
>> >>> >but later.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
>> and
>> >>> >standardized like the one with svn.
>> >>> >I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch to
>> >>>svn
>> >>> >to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
>> >>>humble
>> >>> >opinion.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Cheers,
>> >>> >--
>> >>> >Gianmarco
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
>> >>>committed
>> >>> >> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
>> >>>github
>> >>> >> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
>> to
>> >>> >> submitting a formal patch.  No that's not review board or Jira
>> >>> >>integration.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >>><russell.jur...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > That is fine.  Only committers can merge pull requests.  Not a
>> >>> >>problem.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
>> >>>Works the
>> >>> >> same.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
>> >>><sc...@richrelevance.com
>> >>> >> >wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
>> >>>requires
>> >>> >>the
>> >>> >> >> user to grant apache license to use the code.  A pull request
>> >>>from
>> >>> >> github
>> >>> >> >> does not.
>> >>> >> >> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
>> >>>experts.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >>wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
>> >>>from
>> >>> >> >>> switching
>> >>> >> >>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
>> >>>github.
>> >>> >>  Maybe
>> >>> >> >>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits.  Barrier
>> >>>of
>> >>> >>entry
>> >>> >> >>> for
>> >>> >> >>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
>> all.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
>> >>><da...@hortonworks.com>
>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
>> >>>urgent
>> >>> >>need
>> >>> >> >>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
>> process
>> >>> >>and we
>> >>> >> >>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
>> >>>several
>> >>> >>to
>> >>> >> >>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> Daniel
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
>> >>> >> jcove...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
>> >>>learn
>> >>> >>one
>> >>> >> >>>> or
>> >>> >> >>>> the
>> >>> >> >>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
>> >>>might as
>> >>> >> >>>> well be
>> >>> >> >>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
>> >>> >> >>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
>> >>> >> >>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
>> >>>repo
>> >>> >>using
>> >>> >> >>>> the
>> >>> >> >>>>>> CouchDB project.  Other projects may be able to volunteer to
>> >>>join
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> >>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
>> >>> >> >>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
>> >>><russell.jur...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> What's the work?
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
>> >>><dvrya...@gmail.com
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
>> work.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
>> >>> >> >>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
>> >>>uses
>> >>> >>git?
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
>> >>> >><billgra...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
>> >>>tree
>> >>> >> >>>> that
>> >>> >> >>>> we
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> had
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
>> >>>projects
>> >>> >> >>>> were
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> using
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> git.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.  Looking
>> >>>for
>> >>> >>the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
>> >>> >><ga...@hortonworks.com
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
>> >>> >> >>>> repository.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does.  If this has
>> >>>changed
>> >>> >> >>>> (or
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> when it
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
>> >>> >>which
>> >>> >> >>>> we
>> >>> >> >>>> use.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you
>> can
>> >>> >>apply
>> >>> >> >>>> to
>> >>> >> >>>> do
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> via
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
>> >>>class
>> >>> >> >>>> citizen of
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
>> >>>pig
>> >>> >>is
>> >>> >> >>>> just
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
>> >>>on
>> >>> >> >>>> Twitter
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
>> >>>on the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
>> >>> >>Please
>> >>> >> >>>> email
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> me at
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.*
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> --
>> >>> >> >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
>> >>> >> >>> datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > --
>> >>> >> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
>> >>> >> datasyndrome.com
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
>> >>datasyndrome.com
>>
>>
>
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