+1 to piggybank on github. The one tricky part will be setting up the repos, build and artifact publishing components in a way that handles dependency management of version X of piggybank with version Y of Pig.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote: > I agree. I think we'll see a massive uptick in contributors to Piggybank > if it is on github. I think we can start getting companies like Twitter > and LinkedIn to think about contributing to Piggybank instead of rolling > their own github repos. > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gianmarco De Francisci Morales < > g...@apache.org> wrote: > > > As I said, the integration is still cumbersome. > > There are legal issues with not uploading patches to Jira. > > > > Anyway, +1 for moving Piggybank to git (github could be a good choice in > > this case). > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Gianmarco > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 06:48, Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > No, that is not good :( > > > > > > Weekday for the hackathon? > > > > > > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to > > > > upload patches to JIRA? > > > > > > > > D > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney < > > russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible. > > > >> > > > >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > > >> > > > >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jcove...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend? > > > >>> > > > >>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > > >>> > > > >>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be > > > moving > > > >>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things). > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com > > > > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Alan. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254 > > > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra > > > >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, > but > > do > > > >>>>> agree > > > >>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I > forgot > > > the > > > >>>>> date? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey < > > > sc...@richrelevance.com > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers > exchanging > > > >>>> patches > > > >>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support > > Linus > > > >>>> plans > > > >>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One > > > disadvantage > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading > > the > > > >>>>> patch > > > >>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes > > > after > > > >>>>> only > > > >>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. > 'svn > > > >>>> patch' > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is > planned > > > >>>> support > > > >>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences > between > > > the > > > >>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. > > > >>>> Subversion > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working > > > locally, > > > >>>> for > > > >>>>>>> example. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney > > > >>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be > > > >>>> using... > > > >>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing > out > > > text > > > >>>>>>>>> patches? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey > > > >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git > > and > > > >>>>> upload > > > >>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch? > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked > out > > > with > > > >>>>>>>>>> svn, > > > >>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" < > > > >>>>> g...@apache.org> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they > > > have > > > >>>>> git) > > > >>>>>>>>>> is > > > >>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but later. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully > > > integrated > > > >>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then > > > switch > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>> svn > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so > bad. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that > urgent > > > in my > > > >>>>>>>>>> humble > > > >>>>>>>>>>> opinion. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy < > > > dvrya...@gmail.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If > > we > > > >>>>>>>>>> committed > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate > > > oversight. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. > > That's > > > a > > > >>>>>>>>>> github > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) > > > feature. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for > review > > > prior > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or > > Jira > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> integration. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney > > > >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. > > Not > > > a > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> problem. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my > patches. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Works the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> same. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey > > > >>>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to > JIRA > > > >>>>>>>>>> requires > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull > > > request > > > >>>>>>>>>> from > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> github > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here > > are > > > >>>>>>>>>> experts. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" < > > > russell.jur...@gmail.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would > > > benefit > > > >>>>>>>>>> from > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull > requests > > on > > > >>>>>>>>>> github. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. > > > Barrier > > > >>>>>>>>>> of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> entry > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy > > for > > > >>>> all. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai > > > >>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there > is > > an > > > >>>>>>>>>> urgent > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> need > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize > the > > > >>>> process > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and we > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the > > first > > > >>>>>>>>>> several > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jcove...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to > have > > > to > > > >>>>>>>>>> learn > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> one > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. > > It > > > >>>>>>>>>> might as > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the > > > primary > > > >>>>>>>>>> repo > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> using > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to > > > volunteer > > > >>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>> join > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join > the > > > >>>> apache > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" > > > >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy > > > >>>>>>>>>> <dvrya...@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do > > the > > > >>>> work. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real > project > > > that > > > >>>>>>>>>> uses > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> git? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <billgra...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire > > > >>>> discussion > > > >>>>>>>>>> tree > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some > > incubator > > > >>>>>>>>>> projects > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. > > > >>>> Looking > > > >>>>>>>>>> for > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <ga...@hortonworks.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a > > > primary > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If > this > > > has > > > >>>>>>>>>> changed > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I > > don't > > > >>>> care > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> which > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney > > > wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I > think > > > you > > > >>>> can > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> apply > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the > > > first > > > >>>>>>>>>> class > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to > work > > > with > > > >>>>>>>>>> pig > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been > bandied > > > about > > > >>>>>>>>>> on > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed > > > seriously > > > >>>>>>>>>> on the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email > > > address. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.* > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney > > > russell.jur...@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney > > russell.jur...@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > > >>>>> datasyndrome.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > > >>>> datasyndrome.com > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > -- > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > datasyndrome.com > -- *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at billgra...@gmail.com going forward.*
