Ok, so we just need a date.  Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving
piggybank to github (and other awesome things).

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:

> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>
> > Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> > https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> > http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
> >
> > I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
> agree
> > that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
> >
> > We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the
> date?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging patches
> >> as text via e-mail.  I am not sure what binary patch support Linus plans
> >> or what it would help other than being more compact.  One disadvantage
> is
> >> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
> patch
> >> itself in a text editor.  I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after
> only
> >> glancing at the text of the patch.
> >>
> >> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features.  'svn patch'
> is
> >> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned support
> >> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the
> >> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.  Subversion
> is
> >> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, for
> >> example.
> >>
> >> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> >>>
> >>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> >>>
> >>> Dmitriy
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it.  We should be using...
> >>>> something else.  Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text
> >>>> patches?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> >>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
> upload
> >>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> >>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with
> >>>>> svn,
> >>>>> but that is trivial.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
> g...@apache.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have
> git)
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>> +1
> >>>>>> but later.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated
> and
> >>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
> >>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch
> to
> >>>>> svn
> >>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my
> >>>>> humble
> >>>>>> opinion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Gianmarco
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
> >>>>> committed
> >>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a
> >>>>> github
> >>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior
> to
> >>>>>>> submitting a formal patch.  No that's not review board or Jira
> >>>>>>> integration.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That is fine.  Only committers can merge pull requests.  Not a
> >>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
> >>>>> Works the
> >>>>>>> same.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> >>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
> >>>>> requires
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code.  A pull request
> >>>>> from
> >>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>> does not.
> >>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
> >>>>> experts.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit
> >>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>> switching
> >>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
> >>>>> github.
> >>>>>>> Maybe
> >>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits.  Barrier
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>> entry
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for all.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> >>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
> >>>>> urgent
> >>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the process
> >>>>>>> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
> >>>>> several
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> >>>>>>> jcove...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to
> >>>>> learn
> >>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
> >>>>> might as
> >>>>>>>>>>> well be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary
> >>>>> repo
> >>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project.  Other projects may be able to volunteer to
> >>>>> join
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> >>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> >>>>> <dvrya...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that
> >>>>> uses
> >>>>>>> git?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> >>>>>>> <billgra...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire discussion
> >>>>> tree
> >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
> >>>>> projects
> >>>>>>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.  Looking
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> >>>>>>> <ga...@hortonworks.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary
> >>>>>>>>>>> repository.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does.  If this has
> >>>>> changed
> >>>>>>>>>>> (or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't care
> >>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>> use.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you can
> >>>>>>> apply
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first
> >>>>> class
> >>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with
> >>>>> pig
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously
> >>>>> on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address.
> >>>>>>> Please
> >>>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com
>
>


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