As I said, the integration is still cumbersome.
There are legal issues with not uploading patches to Jira.

Anyway, +1 for moving Piggybank to git (github could be a good choice in
this case).

Cheers,
--
Gianmarco



On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 06:48, Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote:

> No, that is not good :(
>
> Weekday for the hackathon?
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to
> > upload patches to JIRA?
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible.
> >>
> >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>
> >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jcove...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend?
> >>>
> >>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>> Ok, so we just need a date.  Twitter on April <blank> we will be
> moving
> >>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things).
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254
> >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra
> >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do
> >>>>> agree
> >>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot
> the
> >>>>> date?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <
> sc...@richrelevance.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging
> >>>> patches
> >>>>>>> as text via e-mail.  I am not sure what binary patch support Linus
> >>>> plans
> >>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact.  One
> disadvantage
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the
> >>>>> patch
> >>>>>>> itself in a text editor.  I have +1'd many near-trivial changes
> after
> >>>>> only
> >>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features.  'svn
> >>>> patch'
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned
> >>>> support
> >>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between
> the
> >>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now.
> >>>> Subversion
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working
> locally,
> >>>> for
> >>>>>>> example.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dmitriy
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it.  We should be
> >>>> using...
> >>>>>>>>> something else.  Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out
> text
> >>>>>>>>> patches?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey
> >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and
> >>>>> upload
> >>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'.
> >>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out
> with
> >>>>>>>>>> svn,
> >>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" <
> >>>>> g...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they
> have
> >>>>> git)
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>> but later.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully
> integrated
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then
> switch
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> svn
> >>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent
> in my
> >>>>>>>>>> humble
> >>>>>>>>>>> opinion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <
> dvrya...@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we
> >>>>>>>>>> committed
> >>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate
> oversight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's
> a
> >>>>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs)
> feature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review
> prior
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch.  No that's not review board or Jira
> >>>>>>>>>>>> integration.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine.  Only committers can merge pull requests.  Not
> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches.
> >>>>>>>>>> Works the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> same.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey
> >>>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA
> >>>>>>>>>> requires
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code.  A pull
> request
> >>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are
> >>>>>>>>>> experts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <
> russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would
> benefit
> >>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on
> >>>>>>>>>> github.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits.
>  Barrier
> >>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> entry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for
> >>>> all.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai
> >>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an
> >>>>>>>>>> urgent
> >>>>>>>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the
> >>>> process
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first
> >>>>>>>>>> several
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney <
> >>>>>>>>>>>> jcove...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have
> to
> >>>>>>>>>> learn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It
> >>>>>>>>>> might as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the
> primary
> >>>>>>>>>> repo
> >>>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project.  Other projects may be able to
> volunteer
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> join
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the
> >>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney"
> >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy
> >>>>>>>>>> <dvrya...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the
> >>>> work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project
> that
> >>>>>>>>>> uses
> >>>>>>>>>>>> git?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <billgra...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire
> >>>> discussion
> >>>>>>>>>> tree
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator
> >>>>>>>>>> projects
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed.
> >>>> Looking
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <ga...@hortonworks.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a
> primary
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does.  If this
> has
> >>>>>>>>>> changed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't
> >>>> care
> >>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think
> you
> >>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>> apply
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the
> first
> >>>>>>>>>> class
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work
> with
> >>>>>>>>>> pig
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied
> about
> >>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed
> seriously
> >>>>>>>>>> on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email
> address.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney
> russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
> >>>> datasyndrome.com
> >>>>
>

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