Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to upload patches to JIRA?
D On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote: > I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible. > > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jcove...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend? >> >> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com> >> >>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving >>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things). >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github. >>>> >>>> Alan. >>>> >>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project: >>>>> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254 >>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra >>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute >>>>> >>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do >>>> agree >>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github? >>>>> >>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the >>>> date? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging >>> patches >>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus >>> plans >>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage >>>> is >>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the >>>> patch >>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after >>>> only >>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch. >>>>>> >>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn >>> patch' >>>> is >>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned >>> support >>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the >>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. >>> Subversion >>>> is >>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, >>> for >>>>>> example. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dmitriy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be >>> using... >>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text >>>>>>>> patches? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey >>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and >>>> upload >>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'. >>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with >>>>>>>>> svn, >>>>>>>>> but that is trivial. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" < >>>> g...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have >>>> git) >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>> but later. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated >>>> and >>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn. >>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch >>>> to >>>>>>>>> svn >>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my >>>>>>>>> humble >>>>>>>>>> opinion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we >>>>>>>>> committed >>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a >>>>>>>>> github >>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior >>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira >>>>>>>>>>> integration. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a >>>>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. >>>>>>>>> Works the >>>>>>>>>>> same. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA >>>>>>>>> requires >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> github >>>>>>>>>>>>> does not. >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are >>>>>>>>> experts. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on >>>>>>>>> github. >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> entry >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for >>> all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai >>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an >>>>>>>>> urgent >>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the >>> process >>>>>>>>>>> and we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first >>>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney < >>>>>>>>>>> jcove...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to >>>>>>>>> learn >>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It >>>>>>>>> might as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary >>>>>>>>> repo >>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer >>> to >>>>>>>>> join >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the >>> apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" >>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy >>>>>>>>> <dvrya...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the >>> work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that >>>>>>>>> uses >>>>>>>>>>> git? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham >>>>>>>>>>> <billgra...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire >>> discussion >>>>>>>>> tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator >>>>>>>>> projects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. >>> Looking >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates >>>>>>>>>>> <ga...@hortonworks.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has >>>>>>>>> changed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't >>> care >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you >>> can >>>>>>>>>>> apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first >>>>>>>>> class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with >>>>>>>>> pig >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously >>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. >>>>>>>>>>> Please >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>> datasyndrome.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>> datasyndrome.com >>>
