On 6/27/05, Eric Hoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Stealing was too hard a word. Sorry. I didn't want to accuse you of
> illegal activity and I don't wanted to be offensive but which other
> word should I have used? From a X11 porters view you take the work
> of others, fix and modify it where it is necessary and once this
> all is done you claim to have done everything from the beginning to
> the end by yourself and if you mention that Neo/J is based you are
> as vague as possible.

Um, I believe the word you are looking for is "modifying" - it's
standard opperating procedure for "OPEN SOURCE" projects.  Someone
takes the code, which you willingly supply, and take great pains to
make sure the legal license provides for, and changes it to meet their
needs.  It's exactly what *OPEN*Office.org is all about, being "OPEN"
- or did you not pick up on that?  It's not stealing when you put it
outside and put a HUGE FREAKING SIGN over it that says "FREE - PLEASE
TAKE ONE!"

EIther OpenOffice.org is open, and people can change it and sell it
and give it away and call it whatever they want, etc. (which is all
apart of one or both of the licenses that OOo is offered under) - OR-
it's not.  I wish people would stop complaining when people use OOo is
ways that are legal and expressly spelled out for them in the license
that OOo is offered under.

NeoOffice/J goes above and beyond the call of duty with their website
and their program, by giving credit to both the open source community
of OpenOffice.org and Sun Microsystems.  You don't have to do either
to fulfill the licenses.  Neo/J does both on their website, on the
splash screen, in the about box, and in other documentations.  Being
offended or upset at them is not cool, and is a good movativation for
them to *stop* giving *ANY* credit to OOo.

-Chad

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