Since it seems to be such a distraction, I changed the name of the parent group to Apache Pulsar Friends.
Thanks, Aaron On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 6:39 PM Sijie Guo <guosi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Partick, > > I am not a legal expert to answer the trademark question. I will consult > the trademarks team for this. > > However, it is the PMC's responsibility to oversee the usage of "Apache > Pulsar" that follows the ASF policy. > > - Sijie > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 5:23 PM Patrick McFadin <pmcfa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> "Apache Pulsar Community" is not the PMC and that is 100% not the "Apache >> Way™" If it said "Apache Pulsar Project" then I think that would be a >> mischaracterization. I've helped run over 500 Apache-related meetups over >> the past 10 years and myself and other organizers have always been careful >> to use the word "community" as the people and not the project. >> >> This makes the PMC look like some sort of powerful ruling body, which it >> isn't. The PMC can't tell people that they aren't a part of the community. >> How would you add this to your board report? There is nothing here that >> appears as a trademark violation or implication of ownership. >> >> Patrick >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 4:57 PM Matteo Merli <mme...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 4:26 PM Aaron Williams <aa...@wi5s.com> wrote: >> > > Meetups and the Umbrella Group- >> > > Having an Umbrella Group also prevents or at least makes it tougher >> for >> > the >> > > “wild west” of meetup organizations to happen. For Apache Hadoop, >> both >> > > Cloudera and Hortonworks sponsored competing meetups early on, which >> led >> > to >> > > tons of problems for that community around vendor neutrality. We can >> > avoid >> > > this can of worms for Apache Pulsar by providing oversight and >> guidance >> > > from the beginning. >> > > >> > > Thus, given the above and that it is better for the organizers, better >> > for >> > > the PMC’s responsibility to oversee vendor neutrality, and better for >> > users >> > > and potential users to manage meetups with a little more structure, I >> > would >> > > recommend that the PMC go forward with giving its blessing to the >> > Umbrella >> > > model. >> > >> > Aaron, >> > >> > Several PMC members have already asked you to rename the meetup groups >> > you have created, because using "Apache Pulsar Community" as the >> > organizer represents a big mischaracterization that wants to give the >> > impression that the Pulsar PMC is behind these meetups. >> > >> > I believe any other discussion around meetups cannot prescind from that >> > fact. >> > >> > Matteo >> > >> > -- >> > Matteo Merli >> > <mme...@apache.org> >> > >> >
