Hi Harbs,
hope you're well in this time of lockdown and will not be having any issues to the current problems outside :). El mié., 1 abr. 2020 a las 11:50, Harbs (<[email protected]>) escribió: > Before we vote on something like this, I need to understand how it’ll work > and what the ramifications would be. Having two different release processes > sounds like it’ll make things worse instead of better. > we talked a lot past weeks. I think you have all the clues in the past threads. Several info there but is worth reading. As well you can ask us here so we can help you to get up to date and understand, so you can get more involved lately. About having different process I think is not a problem, I think is the opposite :) Just think that is not about the what process an RM use is about the release. If you work best with CI Server, go ahead, If I can do in my machine with just Maven...goof too, right? People verifying the release are not affected at all since need to check the release as always (verifying sign, verify hashes, downloading sources, building from sources and testing in projects, and approve release or not). So no differences for anyone right? just good things for the RMs. > > Life has been a bit hectic lately (as I imagine it has been for many), and > I don’t have clear in my head some of the finer points of the release > process. > Yes, life was turning strange for all of us, just trying to go as we can :). But I think you need to follow up with all the threads (sorry but don't think there's other way). We can support you on any question you have > > I was hoping Yishay would do the next release which would give me an > opportunity to discuss with him how it went using the current process. > (When we can finally spend some face to face time…) ;-) > Yes. and I offer that many times. But maybe the problem is he has not sufficient time to be RM. Don't know. but this thread is not for that. This thread is to get clear if people does not want a normal maven release process and just want CI Server step. If people express that, it's clear others like Yishay or you will need to be RMs (since I have clear that I tried to fight with CI server and have to left in step 7) So its still a chance that Yishay can do work over CI Steps, but I think we should first see if we can "live together" or not. For me that's the most important. Others things goes then. > > I think we’re all in agreement that we want the release process to be > easier, but I’m not sure it’s totally clear to all of us how to best go > about that. > One thing is clear, Chris and I invested many time in CI Server and couldn't work over it. Even we found things was broken. Things that are not about any change we did, just things that seems worked for Alex in this timezone. So I have clear that at least for me old release process is not easier at all, and is not working for me, but the maven one is working and is more easy as we already commented on other threads. I think some of us want one way and others wants another. For me is ok always people that wants a particular way doesn't compel others to stick with his way. For me that would be a sign that this project has a problem far beyond of a release process, and would need to think after what to do from that point, but that will be just me :). > > Please cancel the vote thread because I think you “jumped the gun” on that. > Maybe you didn't read the latest threads fully. I didn't "jumped the gun" myself. Piotr requested first in the other thread, and Then Yishay expressed in other thread the discussion will turn into to a vote. Please check the others thread first. After that, and thinking on it, I think is the best to find a solution and stop this circles going over and over, so I'm too for a vote. So for that reason I did this thread. 3 PMCs requested a vote. We can discuss, but don't think 1 PMC requesting a cancel is a good way to go for an Apache project, unless I'm missing something, I think more people should want to ask for cancelation. But as I said, I think that will not be good for this project. Is that right for you ? Thanks and hope you're well :) Carlos > > My $0.02, > Harbs > > -- > Carlos Rovira > http://about.me/carlosrovira > > > >
