That would be my understanding. On Saturday, July 23, 2011, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Gert, > > what about the ServiceMix Components ? > > I think it's "normal" to include the components in the > apache-servicemix-4.x-jbi packaging, but if we remove jbi/nmr from > apache-servicemix-4.x, we have to remove the components also. > > To summarize: > - apache-servicemix-4.x will include Karaf+ActiveMQ+CXF+Camel > - apache-servicemix-4.x-jbi will include > Karaf+ActiveMQ+CXF+Camel+NMR+JBI+Components+(ODE) > > Is it ok for you ? > > Regards > JB > > On 07/22/2011 02:51 PM, Gert Vanthienen wrote: > > L.S., > > > Well, if we make the default kit have the nmr/jbi as optional > features, then I think it would be better to do the same for the -full > kit. The biggest change is actually in the default download there, so > I do agree we have to make to communicate things properly to our user > base so they know what to expect. > > I'm not sure we have to skip a version to make that point clear though > - it would be the same message, regardless of whether we release the > next 4.x.0 as 4.4.0 or 4.5.0. Personally, I think we'd better focus > on getting the message across properly instead of adding to the > confusion ourselves by skipping a version number. > > > Regards, > > Gert Vanthienen > ------------------------ > FuseSource > Web: http://fusesource.com > Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/ > > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Gert, > > As far as I understood, we agreed that SMX4 should keep the JBI > compatibility. JBI will be completely removed in SMX5. > > I'm fully agree to set the JBI feature should be as optional. In that case, > we should send a clear and strong sign to the community. Why not release SMX > 4.5 for the new version (in place of 4.4.0) ? > > My only concern is just to avoid to loose the users. I think that users > expect something close to 4.3.0 in 4.4.0. > If we announce SMX 4.5 with the new distribution, it would be more clear for > the users. > > My 0.02€ > > Regards > JB > > On 07/22/2011 02:26 PM, Gert Vanthienen wrote: > > > Jean-Baptiste, > > > For the -full assembly, I think it would make sense to take the basic > assembly and just add all bundles in the system repository instead of > starting with the -jbi assembly. If we're recommending new users to > go for Camel/ActiveMQ/CXF instead of JBI, we should not install the > NMR/JBI features by default in this assembly either - if we just leave > them as optional features and have everything sitting in the system > repository already, enabling them would just be a few commands away if > people wanted to. > > > Regards, > > Gert Vanthienen > ------------------------ > FuseSource > Web: http://fusesource.com > Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/ > > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Gert, > > I'm agree that ServiceMix is premium pre-packaged container for > ActiveMQ/Camel/CXF. I'm also agree with the usage of SMX without internet > connection. > > Waiting for Karaf profiles (that should be included in Karaf 3.0.0), we > can > provide the following ServiceMix distribution: > > - apache-servicemix-4.4.0 which is Karaf + ActiveMQ + CXF + Camel, > pre-packaged/pre-configured with a warranty of the integration of these > projects. The nmr/jbi features will be available as optional. > - apache-servicemix-4.4.0-nmr which is the previous distribution but nmr > feature is installed by default, and as a bootFeatures. The jbi feature > is > still an optional one. > - apache-servicemix-4.4.0-full is the previous distribution but the > system > repo contains all artifacts required to work offline. > > WDYT Gert ? > > Regards > JB > > On 07/20/2011 05:16 PM, Gert Vanthienen wrote: > > > L.S., > > > Looking at mails on the user mailing lists and going by my own > production project experience, I'm seeing two use cases for ServiceMix > where we could support our user base by providing new packaging > options for Apache ServiceMix. > > 1). A lot of our users seem to be using only Camel/ActiveMQ (and > perhaps CXF) on their Karaf runtimes. Many people don't have a use > case for JBI/NMR and then decide to just create the container they are > looking for by adding things on top of Karaf directly. I think it > would be a good idea to add a apache-servicemix-4.x.0-minimal > distribution which only packages and installs these basic bundles and > leaves everything else there as optional features. > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > [email protected] > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://www.talend.com >
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