Hi Billie, That makes it a lot clearer. I would ask you to clarify it in the current report, however the report has no mentor sign off. I'll be submitting it tonight. Since you'll be marked as monthly, I would encourage you to either resolve the outstanding status of the project or clarify in the next report that it was only some slider source code, not the entire project, that has moved. Though ideally, if you are moving code into Hadoop it makes more sense for you to simply graduate to a sub-project.
John On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 5:49 PM Billie Rinaldi <billie.rina...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > Thanks for your concern about our progress. I think some of our confusion > stems from the fact that, at the time, we did not think we were performing > step 1. We were only voting to move one Slider maven module over to a > Hadoop module, while the remaining modules would remain here in Slider. > However, I agree that we are overdue for resolving this situation, by > either retiring the remaining Slider code or officially graduating Slider > to a subproject. > > Billie > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:25 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Gour, >> >> Please review the sub project graduation guide at [1] and let me know if >> you believe you've followed all steps. I believe you never did the 3rd >> item on the list. >> >> John >> >> [1]: >> >> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduating_to_a_subproject >> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:58 PM Gour Saha <gs...@hortonworks.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi John, >> > >> > Please help us understand why you think that Slider community did not >> > "follow the incubator policies around sub-projects". We initiated >> > discussions and voting in the Slider community first. We took the >> > discussion and voting to the Hadoop community next and got blessings >> from >> > all quarters. Can you kindly point us to the steps you think we did not >> > follow? >> > >> > -Gour >> > >> > On 2/11/18, 5:40 AM, "John D.Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > I have some concerns with the report. >> > >> > Effectively, the report looks like a graduation as a sub-project >> vote >> > occurred, without following any of the Inucbator policies around >> > sub-projects. I want to see the project be successful, but at the same >> > time it seems like you've moved past the incubation stages. Therefor, >> I'd >> > like to see you complete those sub-project graduation steps. >> > >> > John >> > >> > On 2018/02/07 19:07:24, Billie Rinaldi <billie.rina...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Thanks, Gour. I don't see any issues. >> > > >> > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:25 PM, Gour Saha <gs...@hortonworks.com >> > >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > I will be adding this to the report tomorrow morning. So please >> > send in >> > > > comments/edits by then. >> > > > >> > > > -Gour >> > > > >> > > > On 2/5/18, 4:17 PM, "Gour Saha" <gs...@hortonworks.com> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > This is the draft for Feb 2018. Please review. >> > > > >> > > > -------------------- >> > > > >> > > > Slider is a collection of tools and technologies to package, >> > deploy, >> > > > and >> > > > manage long running applications on Apache Hadoop YARN >> > clusters. >> > > > >> > > > Slider has been incubating since 2014-04-29. >> > > > >> > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards >> > graduation: >> > > > >> > > > 1. Apache Slider community/PPMC had voted to move portions >> of >> > Slider >> > > > into >> > > > Apache Hadoop YARN as modules. In the first week of >> > November, 2017, >> > > > the Apache Hadoop community voted in favor to merge all >> > Slider >> > > > specific >> > > > changes (now referred to as YARN Service) from a feature >> > branch to >> > > > Hadoop trunk. As per the current release plan, it is >> > expected to be >> > > > GA in >> > > > Apache Hadoop release 3.1.0. It is possible that the >> > remaining >> > > > pieces >> > > > of Slider will be moved at a later point in time or >> become >> > obsolete >> > > > or >> > > > evolve to work closely with YARN. >> > > > >> > > > 2. Getting more external users. >> > > > >> > > > 3. Growth of a diverse set of developers/committers/PMC >> > members. >> > > > >> > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board >> > wish/need to be >> > > > aware >> > > > of? >> > > > >> > > > No. >> > > > >> > > > How has the community developed since the last report? >> > > > >> > > > Mailing list activity has been lower due to the bulk of >> the >> > > > development >> > > > moving to Apache Hadoop trunk. Few questions on usage and >> > issues >> > > > encountered by end users are sent to the DL, keeping it >> > somewhat >> > > > active. Occasional patches are also submitted on JIRAs. >> > > > >> > > > How has the project developed since the last report? >> > > > >> > > > Work continues in parallel on the Apache Hadoop trunk >> > branch and on >> > > > the Slider podling. The bulk of the work has been in >> Hadoop >> > trunk. A >> > > > Yarnfile (specification for YARN Service) for the >> Hive/LLAP >> > > > application >> > > > was committed to the Slider yarn-native-services branch. >> > Hive/LLAP >> > > > is a Slider application on top of Apache Hadoop 2.x. The >> > commit of >> > > > this Yarnfile paves the way for all existing owners of >> > Slider >> > > > applications >> > > > to migrate their existing application package scripts to >> > Apache >> > > > Hadoop 3.1.x. >> > > > >> > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity? Please feel >> free >> > to add >> > > > your >> > > > own commentary. >> > > > >> > > > [ ] Initial setup >> > > > [ ] Working towards first release >> > > > [X] Community building >> > > > [ ] Nearing graduation >> > > > [ ] Other: >> > > > >> > > > Date of last release: >> > > > >> > > > 2017-03-23 slider-0.92.0-incubating >> > > > >> > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? >> > > > >> > > > 2015-07-07: Yu (Thomas) Liu >> > > > >> > > > -------------------- >> > > > >> > > > -Gour >> > > > >> > > > On 2/5/18, 3:39 PM, "johndam...@apache.org" < >> > johndam...@apache.org> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Dear podling, >> > > > >> > > > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of >> > the Apache >> > > > Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you >> > plenty of >> > > > time to >> > > > prepare your quarterly board report. >> > > > >> > > > The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 21 February >> 2018, >> > 10:30 am >> > > > PDT. >> > > > The report for your podling will form a part of the >> > Incubator PMC >> > > > report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be >> > submitted 2 >> > > > weeks >> > > > before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for >> > review and >> > > > submission (Wed, February 07). >> > > > >> > > > Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow >> the >> > > > Incubator >> > > > PMC, and subsequently board members to review and >> digest. >> > Again, >> > > > the >> > > > very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks >> prior >> > to the >> > > > board >> > > > meeting. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > >> > > > The Apache Incubator PMC >> > > > >> > > > Submitting your Report >> > > > >> > > > ---------------------- >> > > > >> > > > Your report should contain the following: >> > > > >> > > > * Your project name >> > > > * A brief description of your project, which assumes >> no >> > > > knowledge of >> > > > the project or necessarily of its field >> > > > * A list of the three most important issues to address >> > in the >> > > > move >> > > > towards graduation. >> > > > * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might >> > wish/need >> > > > to be >> > > > aware of >> > > > * How has the community developed since the last >> report >> > > > * How has the project developed since the last report. >> > > > * How does the podling rate their own maturity. >> > > > >> > > > This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at: >> > > > >> > > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2018 >> > > > >> > > > Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a >> > little >> > > > before >> > > > this page is created from a template. >> > > > >> > > > Mentors >> > > > ------- >> > > > >> > > > Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and >> > sign them >> > > > off on >> > > > the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that >> > you are >> > > > following the project - projects that are not signed may >> > raise >> > > > alarms >> > > > for the Incubator PMC. >> > > > >> > > > Incubator PMC >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >
