It's not about the numbering system; it's about the August people like
to bandy about.

Realistically, if we are going to have anything like a stable release
in the August timeframe, we need to feature lock now, so that we can
test and document what we already got.

I'm not against the new API, and I'm not against making "large
changes". I'm against waiting any longer before we decide whether we
are going to make the changes or not.

If people are not quite ready to roll out the new API, I'd also be
very open to starting on the 2.1.x series as soon as we have a
reasonable 2.0.x distribution.

The hard, realistic question is whether people are ready to do the
work now or six weeks from now.

-Ted.

On 7/24/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Now wait a minute - what happened to our alpha releases?  In a more traditional
scheme, you would have "2.0 alpha" and "2.0 alpha 1", which could contain
basically anything you want.  The clear alpha designation indicates that big
changes are in progress and this is more of a milestone release to encourage
development contributions.

As we are going with this Tomcat/HTTPD-style system, I was under the impression
that "2.0 alpha" would become "2.0.0 quality alpha" and could still contain
anything we want.  Therefore, 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 could have radically different
content because both were judged alpha quality.

Either we allow anything we want, including a new api, in the 2.0.x releases
until a beta is declared, or we should move back to a more familiar release
naming system.  Development milestones are important and they shouldn't be
eliminated.

Don

Ted Husted wrote:
> On 7/23/06, Bob Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If we want to tag now, the new API will have to wait for 3.0.
>
> I think we are reaching the point where if we still want to make
> "large changes" for 2.0,  we need to make them now, or make them in
> 2.1. AFAIC, we can open 2.1 as soon as we have a stable 2.0
> distribution. (Or as soon as someone volunteers to port the patches.)
>
> But, with my release manager hat on, I am saying that any "large
> changes" slated for 2.0.x have to be committed by July 31, or be
> postponed.
>
> -Ted.

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