> On Dec 18, 2025, at 3:57 PM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 at 17:37, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> On Dec 18, 2025, at 8:57 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> SVN provides a revision history for files; AFAICT that would be lost
>>> in some proposed implementations.
>>
>> We plan to use the svn logs to capture legacy releases. These will be
>> correlated with both the voluntary reporting on projects.apache.org and
>> voluntary DOAP files. This is a huge task.
>
> I don't think that is the same thing.
> SVN keeps a full history of changes to files, and allows one to
> recover older versions if necessary, as well as show differences.
>
> Does the proposed system provide the same functionality?
Releases must be immutable. Reverting commits on the equivalent of svn dist
release is not within policy. As you know KEYS files need special care and
controlled editing.
For Release Candidates each revision is immutable and revisions will be able to
be reverted.
>
>>>
>>> SVN also provides a revision number which can be used in Vote emails
>>> to identify the RC.
>>
>> ATR is adding the same after feedback in the Alpha phase. We now have both a
>> revision number and a tag for each iteration of a Release Candidates
>> artifacts. These are templated into email bodies and with email subject a
>> current to do.
>
> Are these idents immutable and permanent?
Revisions yes, but the tags may be mutable in the composition phase.
>
>> Best,
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>> Sebb
>>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 at 15:53, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for that.
>>>>
>>>> Was there a discussion focused on why dist/downloads was not fit for task?
>>>> What are the reasons for migration to a new system instead of simply
>>>> integrating with the current system?
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 18, 2025, at 07:47, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tooling.apache.org/svn-dist
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently figured out a way to use mermaid charts with pelican. The site
>>>>> needs more updates. We currently plan to reach transition 2b for beta.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2025, at 5:39 PM, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard talk of the dist mechanism being replaced. I cannot find the
>>>>>> documentation on what the replacement might look like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is part of a broader question about the high level architecture of
>>>>>> the ATR system. I've looked at the github repo as well as
>>>>>> https://tooling.apache.org/ and can't find anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
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