Hi,
:murb: [maarten brouwers] wrote:
Hi Stefan, and others,
So what you simply want is make the link to
http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html more prominent at
http://download.openoffice.org/ ? Possibly something more like a
banner stating "OpenOffice.org 2.2 is near completion. Help us
testing it. Download RC3." ?
Since there are every now and then debates about what should and
should not be at the main page, I was just elaborating on what this
request would mean to the main page... but well... you didn't
consider it at all :)
But Frank did and I do too :-)
I would be happy to see a <orange> "get openoffice.org unstable m212"
button besides / close to the green "get openoffice.org stable 2.1"
(Replace orange with your favorite color for developer content).
Let's try it on the download.ooo page and reconsider this solution for
the home page later.
Well, if the homepage will feature such message, I would like to reserve
a special location for it, maybe just above the news section, which is
used for more testing/community-call related issues. This doesn't mean
that it shouldn't stand out, but it shouldn't be near the regular
download...
I'm fine to have the eye-catcher for snapshot/RC builds in a special
location a bit separate from the "download stable" button.
normal users should be able to navigate almost blindly to
the download latest stable button...
OK, but we seem to have no problem with "normal users". We have a
problem with too few people giving RCs/snapshots a try.
Why not interest "normal users" for those builds?
I agree that we should inform people, what they are going to download,
but let's be a bit more aggressive with content targeted at (potential)
contributors, please.
Second: The description I proposed was rather different from what you
(Stefan) propose.
What I'm looking for is an element that is as outstanding as the "get
openoffice.org" button for the homepage and download central.
IMO this shouldn't be text (only).
Yours is much more tech-user oriented, while it may be
phrased a little bit more friendlier as well imho.
I'm happy to hear better two/three word phrases for a button like element.
Of course it implies
something of, "hmmm, maybe I shouldn't try this",
Yes!
but on the other hand
it does not scare people away who just want to join the simple task of
trying not officially stable builds.
I don't think we guide people in a trap. And last not least there is the
cross-link hint about stable versions for production use on the
rc/snapshot downlaod page.
An RC is something different than a normal snapshot release right?
Technically yes, but both types of builds are equally seldom used :-(
There is a balance between targeting at too much less informed
(responsible?) users and only a small incrowd group. And yes we should
indeed be aware of the concerns Christian put forward... RC's are not
for production environments.
Tonight I'll make some of the changes to the download page, maybe we can
get a consensus on the content of the RC 'campaign' (that's more or less
the perspective I took)... or whether it should be 'campaign' like (of
course we could keep this general, and reuse it for later upcoming RC's
after 2.2)
We continuously offer a "most recent stable build".
In parallel we provide 5-10 (bi-)weekly snapshots or 2-7 RCs before we
release the most recent one as the new ...
IMO we are not talking about a short-lived campaign for 2.2 RCs. We have
to make people aware of the ongoing effort to allow early usage of
"unstable builds". While these terms are widely used there might be
better ones. But I still think they should be equaly easy available from
the homepage and download central.
Greetings
Stefan
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