Hi Kay, and others,

> I went ahead and setup a new tryouts area...
>
> http://website.openoffice.org/tryouts/Jan2008/
Thanks.

> I copied over the "style" directory form the main web site, not website,
> but www.openoffice.org, so we could apply some of the existing styles
> (like the absence of the default nav column), WHEN we got some HTML
> hammered out.

We do have HTML:

http://wyrfel.reukauf.com/hosting/OOo/playground/
http://patentpending.co.nz/openoffice/

As to visual design, Randy brought this proposal in, and it also
demonstrated his marketing element, which I think we all liked.
http://www.alpinecom.net/~fission1/OOo/cotm2.html

I think Andre's proposal is now most up to date when it comes to the HTML
version, but it should integrate some of Randy's design. That is:
- The marketing promotion box
- In footer, mouse over should go to blue (I think I would leave it grey
in default state)
- I'm pitnicking, but could we try to align the text with the start of
"Office" in our logo, so move the content about 20px to the right? I
thought Randy's proposal was a balanced, but the empty space to the right
of the logo looks rather weird.

Kind of obsolete, because Andre's solution for the tabs is much cleaner,
there is also:
http://murb.nl/extern/openoffice.org/2008redesign/
Reason for still mentioning:
* Demonstration of yet another aligment (not the one I've proposed just a
few lines above) of aligning content with logo
* Contains a bit of javascript to open Download on click, but only
limited, and maybe, a :hover solution, like Andre did with the tabs again,
is also preferred here, both for clarity, and ease of use, and cleanness
in code. (which indeed does still require a workaround for IE6); see below
for pseudo-css.
* Is XHTML valid, I believe it is unacceptable to use invalid xhtml
(including block elements within a line element) for promoting a product
that is promoting a single document standard. For the non JS version, two
<a />'s should work as well.

Pseudo CSS for opening the action statements (possibly only Download), as
mocked up here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/mwiki/images/d/d3/Murb_homepageproposal1_homepage_download.png

#homeoptions {
  color: black;
}

#homeoptions:hover {
  color: grey;
]

#homeoptions ul li {
  color: inherit;
}

#homeoptions ul li #downloadmore {
  /* currently there is no <div id="downloadmore" />, but that should
contain the download button and other links... */
  display: none;
}

#homeoptions ul li:hover {
  color: black;
}

#homeoptions ul li:hover #downloadmore {
  display: block;
}


>
> Which brings me to...any idea when this might be? ;}
>

Ivan, do you have CVS access to the website? If not, see:
http://www.openoffice.org/scdocs/ddSSHGuide.html (yet another page that
could be improved, but since it is not end-user no priority)

g.,


Maarten

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