Can we at either change the heading (and include all officers) or sync this list with Executive Officers list in https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/committee-info.txt ?
- Sam Ruby On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:10 PM, Phil Steitz <[email protected]> wrote: > On 6/25/18 6:59 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:35 PM, Shane Curcuru <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Sam Ruby wrote on 6/22/18 8:25 PM: >>>> >>>> I'm curious, why are these two considered Executive officers, and >>>> people like Sally and Gavin are not? >>> >>> Does it matter? >> >> -1 to any definition that is random and capricious. :-) >> >> It should be consistent. I can't conceive of any definition that >> includes Daniel Ruggeri that does not include Sally. >> >> Craig's own definition included Chris, but he didn't add Chris. >> >> Perhaps someone can propose a definition that we can use? I only >> suggested my definition as it was consistent with how the agenda has >> been produced since before I was secretary. >> >> Just be aware that if a person is listed as an executive officer, that >> name will be a part of the monthly roll call UNLESS that person takes >> an explicit action. > > > It seems we have two concepts that we are trying to merge here: > > 1. Who we expect to attend every board meeting (or more precisely whose > absence less likely than their presence) > 2. Who is an "executive officer." > > I can't see a clear rationale for designating those now in category 1. as > any kind of natural group other than that they are the ones specifically > named in section 5.2 the bylaws. The bylaws allow the board to create more, > which we have done over the years. Some, but not all officers who report > directly to the board are there and some who do not report directly to the > board are there. > > I think its best, honestly, to dispense with the "executive" notion > altogether, but keep 1. working as designed. So we s/Executive Officers / > Guests to either > Officers Expected to Attend > > Other Officers and Guests > > or move to three categories: > > Officers Expected > Other Officers > Guests > > Could be I have the wrong labels, but the more I think about it, the more I > think there is no rationale for calling some officers "executive" and other > ones not (other than separating out the project PMC Chairs, but that is not > needed here). > > Phil >> >> >> - Sam Ruby >> >
