New to the list, but I thought I'd share my views. I think part of the 
versatility of Adium is its theme-ability, users can customize it to look like 
what they're interested in.

Should this be the same for the voice/video UI? We have Contact List styles, 
Message window styles, should we have a sort of "AV Styles" option or something 
similar?

I also echo Chris's sentiments: it might not be ideal for certain displays (11" 
MacBook Air comes to mind)

Just my $.02

Peter

On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Christopher Forsythe wrote:

> That seems like it'd not fit on some screens easily.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jacobo Tarragón Cros 
> <jacobo.tarra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there!
> 
> I made a mockup to show how I would like adium to address this new UI.
> In my opinion Adium should go for the obvious and familiar, and that means 
> Quicktime controls. I don't see having the video frame inside the chat window 
> as a bad idea, as chatting while videoconferencing is quite often.
> 
> I didn't put any time in the icons, but you get the idea:
> show/hide my own window --- microphone volumne --- microphone mute --- video 
> mute --- detach to popup --- fullscreen.
> The X on the corner would end the call, but this might be achieved by the 
> toolbar button also.
> 
> I think the video frame should resize along with the chat window, and the 
> chat display would scroll if it's needed.
> 
> Hope this adds to the discussion,
> 
> cheers!
> 
> 
> 2011/1/31 George Lambrou <georgelambrou...@gmail.com>
> 
> On Jan 25, 11, at 8.25 pm, Evan Schoenberg, M.D. wrote:
> 
>> I think one thing we need to address is whether we intend for voice/video to 
>> be a part of the text chat window or whether it's always an independent 
>> thing.  The black HUD appearance George showed here could be really cool as 
>> a separate floating window, but I don't know if it would fit in with a 
>> standard messaging window (at least as it currently appears).
> 
> Alterations can always be made, and I think I'm going to go back and retouch 
> the aesthetic a bit anyway, to better fit with the rest of OS X (the Lion 
> issue again).
> 
>> Could you explain what you mean by the slider grip acting as mute button?
> 
> If the user were to click and hold the slider grip, they could drag it 
> around, change the volume as normal. If they just click on it, though, it 
> acts as a button, muting that volume. Although, since the release of FaceTime 
> for Mac, I'm wondering whether even having those sliders on the window is 
> necessary at all; FaceTime does a brilliant job of video chat, without the 
> need for them. Hiding them somewhere could work, too, but it might be 
> something to consider to ditch them entirely.
> 
>> The decibel level within the slider itself is an inspired dual-purposing of 
>> the control.  Out of curiosity, have you seen that done somewhere else, or 
>> is that a new UI paradigm?
> 
> The volume slider taskbar item in Windows 7. Sure, it's from Microsoft, but 
> when I saw it, I thought it was a good idea, one that would be really well 
> suited to this purpose. That's okay, right?
> 
>>> Floating Window Mode: <snip>
>> 
>> 
>> I would expect close to end the call, I think... I'd handle redocking via 
>> drag-and-drop, just as we can redock tabs that have been pulled into other 
>> windows or new windows.
> 
> I was unsure about what the close button should do as well. My reasoning 
> behind making it a redocking control was that as the floating bar would be 
> part of a multi-window setup, closing the bar would be different from closing 
> the application; Adium would still be running, and the user might just want 
> to cut down on the number of windows they'd have open. If they were to close 
> the floating window, the chat could still continue without cluttering up the 
> user's desktop, similar to closing the iTunes window when you know you're 
> just gonna leave it playing for an hour or two. And of course, redocking via 
> drag and drop would be there too.
> 
>>> <I have more>
>> 
>> I'd love to see them, and here is definitely the most appropriate place.
> 
> I just posted a new mockup in the Message Window Proposal thread for the 
> team's review.
> 
> George Lambrou
> 
> 

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