On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Pavel Raiskup <prais...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:54:48 AM CET Michal Novotny wrote: > > Hello Pavel, > > > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Pavel Raiskup <prais...@redhat.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 10:15:42 PM CET Michal Novotny wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:51 PM, Michal Novotny <cl...@redhat.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Michael Šimáček < > msima...@redhat.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> On 2018-02-13 11:47, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Sorry, I wanted to CC fedora devel before, forwarding. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Pavel > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 10:54:55 AM CET Pavel Raiskup > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> Because we are unable to find a consensus on implementation > details, > > > > >>>> it's > > > > >>>> likely we'll drop this feature from copr API and it will be > > > probably a > > > > >>>> bit > > > > >>>> more complicated to setup mock chroot for local tests in future > > > (you'll > > > > >>>> need to have builder machine with copr-rpmbuild installed, which > > > brings > > > > >>>> a > > > > >>>> lot more runtime dependencies at least). > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> From user perspective, do you mind if we dropped `copr > mock-config` > > > > >>>> command? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >> I didn't know this command existed, but there were multiple times > in > > > the > > > > >> past where I wished something like this had been available (It > didn't > > > exist > > > > >> back then). It was usually situation like this: "Hi, I'm trying to > > > build > > > > >> $package in $copr and it fails because of $build_tool that you > > > maintain, > > > > >> can you help me?". And since I had no idea how his copr was set > up, > > > it took > > > > >> me a lot of time before I was able to reproduce the problem. So, I > > > would > > > > >> find the feature useful, especially in instances outside Fedora, > which > > > > >> usually have more complex configurations. > > > > >> If it had to be dropped, I'd appreciate if copr could display the > > > > >> configuration of given project for non-owners. That way it would > be > > > easier > > > > >> to construct my own config, without trying to guess stuff based on > > > the logs. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > First, thanks for your input. This is very useful information for > us. > > > > > Next, I would like to ask if it was ok to put all the functionality > > > about > > > > > build-testing and building itself into just a single package: > > > > > copr-rpmbuild. I think having things on just one place can help us > > > focus on > > > > > doing them really well and as the copr-rpmbuild tool is already > > > responsible > > > > > for building, I think it would be a perfect place to add additional > > > > > build-debugging functionality like printing-out/dumping mock > configs, > > > > > enablement to run just a part of the build process, possibility to > > > enter > > > > > the build environment interactively etc. Would this be alright? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to add that with this tool you really need to know _what_ you > are > > > > building to be on the safe side. It is similar to running rpmbuild > > > locally > > > > (unless you are really just dumping mock configs). > > > > > > I use 'copr mock-config' for working with buildroot, even if I don't > want > > > to build anything (mock --shell). So except from mock, any other deps > > > installed by copr-rpmbuild are useless and I don't want them on my box > > > basically. > > > > > > > Alright, we can set some most prominent deps of copr-rpmbuild as weak > deps. > > > > It will be then possible to install the minimal package setup e.g. with: > > > > # dnf -y install copr-rpmbuild --setopt=install_weak_deps=False > > > > I opened https://pagure.io/copr/copr/issue/222. > > > > Thanks! > > I wouldn't be able to install copr-rpmbuild on EPEL7 then, where I still > can > install mock/copr-cli and I can experiment with copr bulidroot through > `copr > mock-config` feature. IOW, enforcing user to install another client tool > for generating mock config doesn't make sense. > Actually, I would like to make some deps as very weak deps ('Suggests' tag), so that they are not installed by default. I am not sure what's the status of yum in EPEL7 but I think it would be very nice if this functionality was backported there. If not, I will need to add separate Require tags for rhel. But thanks for that note! > > Pavel > > > >
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