Nicolas Mailhot via devel <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> writes: > Le mercredi 25 mars 2020 à 13:09 +0100, Aleksandra Fedorova a écrit : >> Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote: >> >> As I mentioned in the previous mail, branching goes against the >> purpose of the effort. >> >> What we like to achieve is to create a continuous flow from Fedora >> Rawhide through branched Fedora all the way to downstream, which is >> sometimes CentOS and sometimes EPEL. > > Then please work with @rh engineering to get an up-to-date packaging > stack in EL (that means, latest stable Fedora rpm and latest stable > Fedora packaging macros, and all the other things that make packager > work less a shore). > > A huge amount of EL ifdefs is directly caused by the staleness of the > packaging stack in EL. That’s why so much Fedora stuff never makes it > in EPEL. Most people Fedora side do not want to deal with the utter > clustefuck of trying to push complex up to date software to EL using > inadequate obsolete tooling. > > No amount of clever ifdefing is going to mitigate this tooling > staleness. No amount of poking is going to convince people that *do* > *not* *want* *to* *deal* *with* *el* *braindamage* to accept > braindamage side-effects in their own Fedora specs. That’s trying to > put lipstick on a pig.
This is not "being excellent to each other". Let's keep in mind that we are all here for the same reason (Fedora), and that this makes us colleagues - including the people who make EL. Thanks, --Robbie
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