On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 15:36, Stephen Smoogen <ssmoo...@redhat.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 10:21, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@redhat.com> wrote:
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>> With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
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>> I think we could actually remove all 32-bit libraries *not* required by
>> Steam for Fedora *43*. That should probably be uncontroversial, right?
>> I know that doesn't do anything to help with our infrastructure
>> concerns, but it will at least spare most maintainers from fixing
>> 32-bit build failures.
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> Going from all the previous infrastructure moves, the Fedora 43 schedule is 
> going to be dominated with the move and rebuilding of the release 
> infrastructure from the ground up. There are always all kinds of little 
> things which pop up and slow down what can be done. The next release is 
> usually then filled with everything that didn't get done because builds and 
> updates were slowed down. Removing several thousand packages in a release 
> would require
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> 1. How are you going to remove it? Everyone add a ExcludeArch: , someone fix 
> koji to only allow a specific list? a shadow koji which only builds for 
> x86_32? etc

We used to do a special list with koji for PowerPC for packages
optimised for powerv7 as a 'ppc64v7' sub arch in the ppc64 BE days,
you should be able to provide a list of "end packages" and have
something like the the critical path script update the full list there
and populate it for i686. The functionality is in already in koji.

> 2. What else is broken that comes up because of this. Removing arm32 actually 
> caused problems in completely unrelated parts of the build system because of 
> weird things.
> 3. Who is going to do the work?
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> I really don't see this being ready by Fedora 44 with the current 'need to 
> get 300+ cat-like developers to agree' that generally needs to happen.
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