On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 12:52, Peter Robinson <pbrobin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 15:36, Stephen Smoogen <ssmoo...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 10:21, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern.
> >>
> >> I think we could actually remove all 32-bit libraries *not* required by
> >> Steam for Fedora *43*. That should probably be uncontroversial, right?
> >> I know that doesn't do anything to help with our infrastructure
> >> concerns, but it will at least spare most maintainers from fixing
> >> 32-bit build failures.
> >>
> >
> > Going from all the previous infrastructure moves, the Fedora 43 schedule
> is going to be dominated with the move and rebuilding of the release
> infrastructure from the ground up. There are always all kinds of little
> things which pop up and slow down what can be done. The next release is
> usually then filled with everything that didn't get done because builds and
> updates were slowed down. Removing several thousand packages in a release
> would require
> >
> > 1. How are you going to remove it? Everyone add a ExcludeArch: , someone
> fix koji to only allow a specific list? a shadow koji which only builds for
> x86_32? etc
>
> We used to do a special list with koji for PowerPC for packages
> optimised for powerv7 as a 'ppc64v7' sub arch in the ppc64 BE days,
> you should be able to provide a list of "end packages" and have
> something like the the critical path script update the full list there
> and populate it for i686. The functionality is in already in koji.
>
>
Understood. What I was trying to say, but failed, is that there are a lot
of ways this could be solved, and Fedora needs to have time to generate
consensus on which version can be safely done. I think that it would need
to be done by the mass rebuild which seems scheduled around 2025-07-23 . I
expect various things could be done 'compose' wise after that date but
those would need to be 'done' by mid-August.

-- 
Stephen Smoogen, Red Hat Automotive
Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle.
-- Ian MacClaren
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