so, we have a little problem here, pastebin is for transient data logs ( max 30 days if i remember correctly) and good bug reports need permanent logs! why can't both world be happy by just make bug report infrastructure pull out automaticaly, as permanent cached data, pastebin logs links?
is true, this nice kinky wish_to_be automations is for lazy persons who are so lazy that can not afford to upload logs twice, one time to pastebin and one more time in bugreport infrastructure ... this announce is also true for pastebin.sabayon.org? i think it is! ======================================= linux is free, but needed expertise to use this little beast is a personal, time consuming, continuous accumulation of knowledge and wasted time can not be rolled back no matter how much money you have selling free software can not bring to you too much money, but USING free software you can make a lot of money like Google ... or IBM your little help to free software development does not bring to you any money but can help you use it more efficiently, so you can make more money ... meanwhile, other users of that little free software program, using your contribution can make more money! nobody loses anything, all those who know how to use a free software program, in continuous evolution, wins registered linux user #352479 2011/9/23 Glenn Phillips <gl...@coriolis-storm.com> > why add something to scrape the Pastebin data into a file when its detected > in the bug input field... > if facebook can manage similar with their status ticker BS why can't we? > also James you comment is invalid as it contains a link to pastebin > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:30 AM, James Cook <azerth...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> you mean like pastebin.com? >> >> http://pastebin.com/f1b94f49d >> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Gary Clow <short_g...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Obviously a system needs to be created where by the data on paste bins >> get >> > merged into the ticket thus meaning only when the ticket is resolved the >> > data is "removed" this may require someone copying and pasting this into >> the >> > ticket.. >> > >> > The alternative is someone ask HP for a license to use HP SM7 to track >> > tickets... Haha yeah, no... >> > >> > Afaik if users paste their log then that is a massive step to solving >> the >> > bug. >> > >> > Another question would be, has anyone got a system where the sabayon >> paste >> > bin expires after a year or so? Just an idea. >> > And my 2c's >> > ,,,-- >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > Gary Clow >> > >> > Sent from my Nokia N900 >> > >> > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, 22:18:11 NZST, Wolfden <wolf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Users are use to pastebins, this is what they are told to use in IRC >> and >> >> not just with our distro. I agree pastebin don't work for bugzilla so >> >> Danilo and Daniél are hitting the nail on the head with teaching them >> >> not too. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Danilo Pianini >> >> <danilo.pian...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >> >> > Agree with Daniél. It's just important to help people to help us: so >> >> > we can choose the rules we desire, but we are responsible to >> correctly >> >> > help them with their reports. >> >> > >> >> > Fabio, I understand you are getting upset of people using >> >> > pastebin+bugzilla and making tons of mistakes, but instead of >> >> > replying: >> >> > "Thanks for using Pastebin with Bugzilla. >> >> > The stuff you pasted is now gone forever. >> >> > Smart, huh." >> >> > >> >> > You could have replied: >> >> > "Please don't use Pastebin with Bugzilla, or the stuff you paste will >> >> > be lost and your bug will be marked as INVALID. Please attach your >> >> > files to this bug report, and read carefully the instructions >> >> > available at <LINK>." >> >> > >> >> > Many users have never seen a bugzilla before, maybe they neither know >> >> > how a pastebin works, we cannot require users to born with bult-in >> >> > knowledge. I know dealing with ignorance is irritating, but it's >> >> > necessary. >> >> > >> >> > BTW, for this very specific issue, a bot with the above fixed reply >> >> > acting every time a *pastebin.* pattern is detected would work IMHO. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > 2011/9/23 Daniél Lecoq <cu...@curzed.net>: >> >> > > In my opinion, as long as it's clear for the users that they should >> >> > > use "this" and not "that" because "that" expires. I see nothing >> >> > > wrong with making "that" invalid. But it should be clear that they >> >> > > should use "this" instead. >> >> > > >> >> > > On 09/23/2011 08:35 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: >> >> > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, James Cook <azerth...@gmail.com >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> > > > > Does that mean that because the sabayon.org redesign will >> >> > > > > invalidate broken links due to URL changes and those will also >> >> > > > > be marked invalid? Seriously if thats your logic you just >> >> > > > > invalidated our own forums for use in reference in the >> >> > > > > bugtracker. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Stop trolling now. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini >> >> > >> >> > Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ >> >> > Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 >> >> > Skype: dany.sk >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> KJS >> >> ~wolfden~ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > >
