Toderel, the default expiry for pastebin is never. For anything else it requires user intervention. Hence the reason I included one that will be having it's second birthday very soon previously.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Glenn Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > theres also the fact many of the logs are pulled from CLI only sources, so > they just pastebin the logs and move on, I wonder how hard it would to be > build a little button in bugzilla that says: copy log from pastebin - with a > url box to the pastebin id... and it just pulls it... > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Toderel Adrian-Aurel <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> so, we have a little problem here, pastebin is for transient data logs ( >> max 30 days if i remember correctly) and good bug reports need permanent >> logs! why can't both world be happy by just make bug report infrastructure >> pull out automaticaly, as permanent cached data, pastebin logs links? >> >> is true, this nice kinky wish_to_be automations is for lazy persons who >> are so lazy that can not afford to upload logs twice, one time to pastebin >> and one more time in bugreport infrastructure ... >> >> this announce is also true for pastebin.sabayon.org? i think it is! >> ======================================= >> linux is free, but needed expertise to use this little beast >> is a personal, time consuming, continuous accumulation of knowledge >> and wasted time can not be rolled back no matter how much money you have >> >> selling free software can not bring to you too much money, >> but USING free software you can make a lot of money >> like Google ... or IBM >> >> your little help to free software development does not bring >> to you any money but can help you use it more efficiently, >> so you can make more money ... meanwhile, other users of >> that little free software program, using your contribution >> can make more money! nobody loses anything, all those who know >> how to use a free software program, in continuous evolution, wins >> registered linux user #352479 >> >> >> 2011/9/23 Glenn Phillips <[email protected]> >>> >>> why add something to scrape the Pastebin data into a file when its >>> detected in the bug input field... >>> if facebook can manage similar with their status ticker BS why can't we? >>> also James you comment is invalid as it contains a link to pastebin >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:30 AM, James Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> you mean like pastebin.com? >>>> >>>> http://pastebin.com/f1b94f49d >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Gary Clow <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Obviously a system needs to be created where by the data on paste bins >>>> > get >>>> > merged into the ticket thus meaning only when the ticket is resolved >>>> > the >>>> > data is "removed" this may require someone copying and pasting this >>>> > into the >>>> > ticket.. >>>> > >>>> > The alternative is someone ask HP for a license to use HP SM7 to track >>>> > tickets... Haha yeah, no... >>>> > >>>> > Afaik if users paste their log then that is a massive step to solving >>>> > the >>>> > bug. >>>> > >>>> > Another question would be, has anyone got a system where the sabayon >>>> > paste >>>> > bin expires after a year or so? Just an idea. >>>> > And my 2c's >>>> > ,,,-- >>>> > Kind regards, >>>> > >>>> > Gary Clow >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my Nokia N900 >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, 22:18:11 NZST, Wolfden <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Users are use to pastebins, this is what they are told to use in IRC >>>> >> and >>>> >> not just with our distro. I agree pastebin don't work for bugzilla >>>> >> so >>>> >> Danilo and Daniél are hitting the nail on the head with teaching them >>>> >> not too. >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Danilo Pianini >>>> >> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> > Agree with Daniél. It's just important to help people to help us: >>>> >> > so >>>> >> > we can choose the rules we desire, but we are responsible to >>>> >> > correctly >>>> >> > help them with their reports. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Fabio, I understand you are getting upset of people using >>>> >> > pastebin+bugzilla and making tons of mistakes, but instead of >>>> >> > replying: >>>> >> > "Thanks for using Pastebin with Bugzilla. >>>> >> > The stuff you pasted is now gone forever. >>>> >> > Smart, huh." >>>> >> > >>>> >> > You could have replied: >>>> >> > "Please don't use Pastebin with Bugzilla, or the stuff you paste >>>> >> > will >>>> >> > be lost and your bug will be marked as INVALID. Please attach your >>>> >> > files to this bug report, and read carefully the instructions >>>> >> > available at <LINK>." >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Many users have never seen a bugzilla before, maybe they neither >>>> >> > know >>>> >> > how a pastebin works, we cannot require users to born with bult-in >>>> >> > knowledge. I know dealing with ignorance is irritating, but it's >>>> >> > necessary. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > BTW, for this very specific issue, a bot with the above fixed reply >>>> >> > acting every time a *pastebin.* pattern is detected would work >>>> >> > IMHO. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > 2011/9/23 Daniél Lecoq <[email protected]>: >>>> >> > > In my opinion, as long as it's clear for the users that they >>>> >> > > should >>>> >> > > use "this" and not "that" because "that" expires. I see nothing >>>> >> > > wrong with making "that" invalid. But it should be clear that >>>> >> > > they >>>> >> > > should use "this" instead. >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > On 09/23/2011 08:35 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: >>>> >> > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, James Cook >>>> >> > > > <[email protected]> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> > > > > Does that mean that because the sabayon.org redesign will >>>> >> > > > > invalidate broken links due to URL changes and those will >>>> >> > > > > also >>>> >> > > > > be marked invalid? Seriously if thats your logic you just >>>> >> > > > > invalidated our own forums for use in reference in the >>>> >> > > > > bugtracker. >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > Stop trolling now. >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Ing. Dott. Danilo Pianini >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Site: http://www.danilopianini.org/ >>>> >> > Phone: +39 320 41 36 573 >>>> >> > Skype: dany.sk >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> KJS >>>> >> ~wolfden~ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
