our pastbin has as 'attach as file' option....for blobs and images and such

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Toderel Adrian-Aurel <toted...@gmail.com>wrote:

> our pastebin? i mean, sabayon pastebin? this means that can be excluded
> from this interdiction? is true i never look too close at sabayon pastebin
> details because i do not make many bugreports and my use of sabayon pastebin
> is very low ... because is only another pastebin between many online
> pastebins i assume is like all pastebins, with short lifetimes, in month
> ranges, and text only oriented not too friendly to binary blobs ( but not
> 100% unfriendly because any binary blobs can be converted to base64 text
> lists )
>
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>
> 2011/9/23 James Cook <azerth...@gmail.com>
>
>> Toderel, the default expiry for pastebin is never. For anything else
>> it requires user intervention. Hence the reason I included one that
>> will be having it's second birthday very soon previously.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Glenn Phillips
>> <gl...@coriolis-storm.com> wrote:
>> > theres also the fact many of the logs are pulled from CLI only sources,
>> so
>> > they just pastebin the logs and move on, I wonder how hard it would to
>> be
>> > build a little button in bugzilla that says: copy log from pastebin -
>> with a
>> > url box to the pastebin id... and it just pulls it...
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Toderel Adrian-Aurel <
>> toted...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> so, we have a little problem here, pastebin is for transient data logs
>> (
>> >> max 30 days if i remember correctly) and good bug reports need
>> permanent
>> >> logs! why can't both world be happy by just make bug report
>> infrastructure
>> >> pull out automaticaly, as permanent cached data, pastebin logs links?
>> >>
>> >> is true, this nice kinky wish_to_be automations is for lazy persons who
>> >> are so lazy that can not afford to upload logs twice, one time to
>> pastebin
>> >> and one more time in bugreport infrastructure ...
>> >>
>> >> this announce is also true for pastebin.sabayon.org? i think it is!
>> >> =======================================
>> >> linux is free, but needed expertise to use this little beast
>> >> is a personal, time consuming, continuous accumulation of knowledge
>> >>  and wasted time can not be rolled back no matter how much money you
>> have
>> >>
>> >> selling free software can not bring to you too much money,
>> >> but USING free software you can make a lot of money
>> >> like Google ... or IBM
>> >>
>> >> your little help to free software development does not bring
>> >> to you any money but can help you use it more efficiently,
>> >> so you can make more money ... meanwhile, other users of
>> >> that little free software program, using your contribution
>> >> can make more money! nobody loses anything, all those who know
>> >> how to use a free software program, in continuous evolution, wins
>> >> registered linux user #352479
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2011/9/23 Glenn Phillips <gl...@coriolis-storm.com>
>> >>>
>> >>> why add something to scrape the Pastebin data into a file when its
>> >>> detected in the bug input field...
>> >>> if facebook can manage similar with their status ticker BS why can't
>> we?
>> >>> also James you comment is invalid as it contains a link to pastebin
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:30 AM, James Cook <azerth...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> you mean like pastebin.com?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://pastebin.com/f1b94f49d
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Gary Clow <short_g...@hotmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > Obviously a system needs to be created where by the data on paste
>> bins
>> >>>> > get
>> >>>> > merged into the ticket thus meaning only when the ticket is
>> resolved
>> >>>> > the
>> >>>> > data is "removed" this may require someone copying and pasting this
>> >>>> > into the
>> >>>> > ticket..
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The alternative is someone ask HP for a license to use HP SM7 to
>> track
>> >>>> > tickets... Haha yeah, no...
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Afaik if users paste their log then that is a massive step to
>> solving
>> >>>> > the
>> >>>> > bug.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Another question would be, has anyone got a system where the
>> sabayon
>> >>>> > paste
>> >>>> > bin expires after a year or so? Just an idea.
>> >>>> > And my 2c's
>> >>>> > ,,,--
>> >>>> > Kind regards,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Gary Clow
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Sent from my Nokia N900
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, 22:18:11 NZST, Wolfden <wolf...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> Users are use to pastebins, this is what they are told to use in
>> IRC
>> >>>> >> and
>> >>>> >> not just with our distro.  I agree pastebin don't work for
>> bugzilla
>> >>>> >> so
>> >>>> >> Danilo and Daniél are hitting the nail on the head with teaching
>> them
>> >>>> >> not too.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Danilo Pianini
>> >>>> >> <danilo.pian...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> > Agree with Daniél. It's just important to help people to help
>> us:
>> >>>> >> > so
>> >>>> >> > we can choose the rules we desire, but we are responsible to
>> >>>> >> > correctly
>> >>>> >> > help them with their reports.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Fabio, I understand you are getting upset of people using
>> >>>> >> > pastebin+bugzilla and making tons of mistakes, but instead of
>> >>>> >> > replying:
>> >>>> >> > "Thanks for using Pastebin with Bugzilla.
>> >>>> >> > The stuff you pasted is now gone forever.
>> >>>> >> > Smart, huh."
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > You could have replied:
>> >>>> >> > "Please don't use Pastebin with Bugzilla, or the stuff you paste
>> >>>> >> > will
>> >>>> >> > be lost and your bug will be marked as INVALID. Please attach
>> your
>> >>>> >> > files to this bug report, and read carefully the instructions
>> >>>> >> > available at <LINK>."
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Many users have never seen a bugzilla before, maybe they neither
>> >>>> >> > know
>> >>>> >> > how a pastebin works, we cannot require users to born with
>> bult-in
>> >>>> >> > knowledge. I know dealing with ignorance is irritating, but it's
>> >>>> >> > necessary.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > BTW, for this very specific issue, a bot with the above fixed
>> reply
>> >>>> >> > acting every time a *pastebin.* pattern is detected would work
>> >>>> >> > IMHO.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > 2011/9/23 Daniél Lecoq <cu...@curzed.net>:
>> >>>> >> > > In my opinion, as long as it's clear for the users that they
>> >>>> >> > > should
>> >>>> >> > > use "this" and not "that" because "that" expires. I see
>> nothing
>> >>>> >> > > wrong with making "that" invalid. But it should be clear that
>> >>>> >> > > they
>> >>>> >> > > should use "this" instead.
>> >>>> >> > >
>> >>>> >> > > On 09/23/2011 08:35 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> >>>> >> > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, James Cook
>> >>>> >> > > > <azerth...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> > wrote:
>> >>>> >> > > > > Does that mean that because the sabayon.org redesign will
>> >>>> >> > > > > invalidate broken links due to URL changes and those will
>> >>>> >> > > > > also
>> >>>> >> > > > > be marked invalid? Seriously if thats your logic you just
>> >>>> >> > > > > invalidated our own forums for use in reference in the
>> >>>> >> > > > > bugtracker.
>> >>>> >> > > > >
>> >>>> >> > > > Stop trolling now.
>> >>>> >> > > >
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