our pastbin has as 'attach as file' option....for blobs and images and such
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Toderel Adrian-Aurel <toted...@gmail.com>wrote: > our pastebin? i mean, sabayon pastebin? this means that can be excluded > from this interdiction? is true i never look too close at sabayon pastebin > details because i do not make many bugreports and my use of sabayon pastebin > is very low ... because is only another pastebin between many online > pastebins i assume is like all pastebins, with short lifetimes, in month > ranges, and text only oriented not too friendly to binary blobs ( but not > 100% unfriendly because any binary blobs can be converted to base64 text > lists ) > > ======================================= > linux is free, but needed expertise to use this little beast > is a personal, time consuming, continuous accumulation of knowledge > and wasted time can not be rolled back no matter how much money you have > > selling free software can not bring to you too much money, > but USING free software you can make a lot of money > like Google ... or IBM > > your little help to free software development does not bring > to you any money but can help you use it more efficiently, > so you can make more money ... meanwhile, other users of > that little free software program, using your contribution > can make more money! nobody loses anything, all those who know > how to use a free software program, in continuous evolution, wins > registered linux user #352479 > > > 2011/9/23 James Cook <azerth...@gmail.com> > >> Toderel, the default expiry for pastebin is never. For anything else >> it requires user intervention. Hence the reason I included one that >> will be having it's second birthday very soon previously. >> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Glenn Phillips >> <gl...@coriolis-storm.com> wrote: >> > theres also the fact many of the logs are pulled from CLI only sources, >> so >> > they just pastebin the logs and move on, I wonder how hard it would to >> be >> > build a little button in bugzilla that says: copy log from pastebin - >> with a >> > url box to the pastebin id... and it just pulls it... >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Toderel Adrian-Aurel < >> toted...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> so, we have a little problem here, pastebin is for transient data logs >> ( >> >> max 30 days if i remember correctly) and good bug reports need >> permanent >> >> logs! why can't both world be happy by just make bug report >> infrastructure >> >> pull out automaticaly, as permanent cached data, pastebin logs links? >> >> >> >> is true, this nice kinky wish_to_be automations is for lazy persons who >> >> are so lazy that can not afford to upload logs twice, one time to >> pastebin >> >> and one more time in bugreport infrastructure ... >> >> >> >> this announce is also true for pastebin.sabayon.org? i think it is! >> >> ======================================= >> >> linux is free, but needed expertise to use this little beast >> >> is a personal, time consuming, continuous accumulation of knowledge >> >> and wasted time can not be rolled back no matter how much money you >> have >> >> >> >> selling free software can not bring to you too much money, >> >> but USING free software you can make a lot of money >> >> like Google ... or IBM >> >> >> >> your little help to free software development does not bring >> >> to you any money but can help you use it more efficiently, >> >> so you can make more money ... meanwhile, other users of >> >> that little free software program, using your contribution >> >> can make more money! nobody loses anything, all those who know >> >> how to use a free software program, in continuous evolution, wins >> >> registered linux user #352479 >> >> >> >> >> >> 2011/9/23 Glenn Phillips <gl...@coriolis-storm.com> >> >>> >> >>> why add something to scrape the Pastebin data into a file when its >> >>> detected in the bug input field... >> >>> if facebook can manage similar with their status ticker BS why can't >> we? >> >>> also James you comment is invalid as it contains a link to pastebin >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:30 AM, James Cook <azerth...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> you mean like pastebin.com? >> >>>> >> >>>> http://pastebin.com/f1b94f49d >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Gary Clow <short_g...@hotmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> > Obviously a system needs to be created where by the data on paste >> bins >> >>>> > get >> >>>> > merged into the ticket thus meaning only when the ticket is >> resolved >> >>>> > the >> >>>> > data is "removed" this may require someone copying and pasting this >> >>>> > into the >> >>>> > ticket.. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > The alternative is someone ask HP for a license to use HP SM7 to >> track >> >>>> > tickets... Haha yeah, no... >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Afaik if users paste their log then that is a massive step to >> solving >> >>>> > the >> >>>> > bug. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Another question would be, has anyone got a system where the >> sabayon >> >>>> > paste >> >>>> > bin expires after a year or so? Just an idea. >> >>>> > And my 2c's >> >>>> > ,,,-- >> >>>> > Kind regards, >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Gary Clow >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Sent from my Nokia N900 >> >>>> > >> >>>> > On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, 22:18:11 NZST, Wolfden <wolf...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> Users are use to pastebins, this is what they are told to use in >> IRC >> >>>> >> and >> >>>> >> not just with our distro. I agree pastebin don't work for >> bugzilla >> >>>> >> so >> >>>> >> Danilo and Daniél are hitting the nail on the head with teaching >> them >> >>>> >> not too. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Danilo Pianini >> >>>> >> <danilo.pian...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > Agree with Daniél. It's just important to help people to help >> us: >> >>>> >> > so >> >>>> >> > we can choose the rules we desire, but we are responsible to >> >>>> >> > correctly >> >>>> >> > help them with their reports. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Fabio, I understand you are getting upset of people using >> >>>> >> > pastebin+bugzilla and making tons of mistakes, but instead of >> >>>> >> > replying: >> >>>> >> > "Thanks for using Pastebin with Bugzilla. >> >>>> >> > The stuff you pasted is now gone forever. >> >>>> >> > Smart, huh." >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > You could have replied: >> >>>> >> > "Please don't use Pastebin with Bugzilla, or the stuff you paste >> >>>> >> > will >> >>>> >> > be lost and your bug will be marked as INVALID. Please attach >> your >> >>>> >> > files to this bug report, and read carefully the instructions >> >>>> >> > available at <LINK>." >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Many users have never seen a bugzilla before, maybe they neither >> >>>> >> > know >> >>>> >> > how a pastebin works, we cannot require users to born with >> bult-in >> >>>> >> > knowledge. I know dealing with ignorance is irritating, but it's >> >>>> >> > necessary. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > BTW, for this very specific issue, a bot with the above fixed >> reply >> >>>> >> > acting every time a *pastebin.* pattern is detected would work >> >>>> >> > IMHO. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > 2011/9/23 Daniél Lecoq <cu...@curzed.net>: >> >>>> >> > > In my opinion, as long as it's clear for the users that they >> >>>> >> > > should >> >>>> >> > > use "this" and not "that" because "that" expires. I see >> nothing >> >>>> >> > > wrong with making "that" invalid. But it should be clear that >> >>>> >> > > they >> >>>> >> > > should use "this" instead. >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > On 09/23/2011 08:35 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: >> >>>> >> > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, James Cook >> >>>> >> > > > <azerth...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >> > wrote: >> >>>> >> > > > > Does that mean that because the sabayon.org redesign will >> >>>> >> > > > > invalidate broken links due to URL changes and those will >> >>>> >> > > > > also >> >>>> >> > > > > be marked invalid? Seriously if thats your logic you just >> >>>> >> > > > > invalidated our own forums for use in reference in the >> >>>> >> > > > > bugtracker. >> >>>> >> > > > > >> >>>> >> > > > Stop trolling now. >> >>>> >> > > > >> >>>> >> > > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > -- >> >>>> >> > Ing. Dott. 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