On 12 Jan 2003, Eric Anholt wrote:

>> You know I never for the life of me understood that.  I would have thougtht
>> that every developer would be interested and see if their patch bumped horns
>> with another.
>> As former postmaster I received, I think, a total of two requests.  Weird.
>> 
>> Georgina
>
>Who's the new postmaster?  I sent in my request to be added to patch@
>six days ago, but no response so far.
>
>Also, is there any reason for the standard patch-queue list to be
>private?  If it's destined for the public source tree, why not make it
>subscribable through mailman, too?

Which would also have the benefit of patches being useable and 
testable by other people in the wild without waiting for 
XFree86.org to have volunteer time to review and possibly apply a 
patch.

Also, someone might submit a patch, that isn't perfectly correct,
have it sit in the patch queue for 1 month, or possibly 4 or more
months, and in the mean time change hardware or circumstance and
not care about the issue any more.  Then if an XFree86.org CVS
commiter goes to review it, and finds something that needs fixing 
(but isn't able or perhaps willing to do it themselves), assuming 
they do try to notify the person who submitted it - what if the 
person's email address is no longer valid?  What if they do 
contact the person and the person no longer cares?

Publically visible patches, mean that other people can test them 
and use them right away and provide feedback on wether or not the 
patch does what it says it does.  Some people will also be able 
to vouch for the correctness of the patch.  This would relieve 
some of the things that people who apply patches to the 
repository need to do first, and it would also get more patches 
more widespread testing.

How much end user testing do patches get that were submitted 6 
months before they were applied, and then a release shipped only 
a couple of months or so later?  Perhaps between the time it was 
applied and the time it shipped, nobody even tested it.

Also, more and more desktop oriented users are springing up.  
They aren't really compile-it-yourself types, so if they report a 
bug, they might not see if it is fixed until the next release (or 
erratum) from their given distro comes out.

By having patch lists public, it enables more people who are 
compile savvy to test things earlier, and allows more feedback to 
be given to the tree maintainers of what is good, and what sucks, 
helping them to trim down their workload by calling crap crap 
earlier in the cycle.


-- 
Mike A. Harris




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