Yeah, I see what he is saying, I know exactly what he is describing too.
Adding buttons in that way...breaks some consistency with the rest of
Moovida (went to great lengths to not waste space with stupid arrows
to indicate or click for more).
Also, it solves the interaction issue somewhat though, but... looks
wise, using the opacity technique in Moovida (e.g. see any long list
in the app), it wont look too nice... but maybe it can be solved as I
say when doing proper mockups....but... and this is a big problem...
We dont have any masking techniques in place in Moovida yet to even do
what Keith is suggesting :(
(There is a lot of things hinging on Pigment 0.5 that I need like
this...synopsis pages for movies I wanted to be able to scroll a lot
of text etc. Pigment 0.5 is coming though as soon as possible)
So, to summarise, Keiths idea...
Somewhat solves the interaction issue
Breaks consistency in the UI
Doubtful if it is possible to do yet as a result of waiting for
Pigment 0.5 where masking can be used.
David
On 3 Jul 2009, at 16:01, Daniel Chapman wrote:
Interesting solution, but i definitely don't think this is a good
idea for various reasons.
Leptest
2009/7/3 Keith Cirkel <[email protected]>
To solve this, I would add buttons to the top, bottom, left and
right. The user navigates a "screen of buttons" and actions the
"right" button to move to the right, rather than moving their
"cursor" (potentially infinitely) to the right.
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Keith Cirkel
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Michał Sawicz <[email protected]>
wrote:
Dnia 2009-07-03, pią o godzinie 10:40 +0200, David McLeod pisze:
--8<--
> So, what problems do I immediately see?
>
> Well, considering that Moovida uses an opacity technique to tell the
> user that additional things (e.g. bars of a list) can be scrolled
to,
> I am not sure how to do this with an EPG guide like this. If you
are
> a visual person you might understand what I mean. How do I do
opacity
> changes on the 'grey bars' we use when they move to the left of the
> screen and tuck under the TV station logos? Those bars are going to
> be different lengths to represent different lengths of the TV
> shows...then we need to do the same technique for the right of the
> screen. Instinctively, I know this is going to look visually
weird...
> but maybe, I might be able to solve this in Photoshop or by testing
> out some 'comps' to get this worked out...so for now I will
continue.
The current list modifies opacity of the whole item, right? The whole
list row / grid cell gets it's opacity reduced. What I would see
consistent with the rest of Moovida UI is a thin, constant-width
opacity
gradient from top to bottom on both sides of the grid. There's one
problem with that... AFAIK we can't have opacity masks in current
pigment...
--8<--
> Let me explain... (check out the orange arrows on the thumbnail
> sketch) I go up and down TV stations (imagine there are 100 or
so), so
> that means the up and down buttons are taken... then I go left and
> right through the 'timeline'... that means the left and right
buttons
> are taken. So, I have a problem now... I can navigate up to those
> buttons so the user can switch between the views!
We discussed this with Kevin in one of our posts. He proposed that the
upper buttons could be accessible by going to the far left and left
again (that is if the farthest left available item is "now"). I don't
think that's a good idea. I'd rather have the two views separate in
the
menu. Watch TV > it shows you 'now & then', Programme Guide > the full
fledged guide.
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Michał Sawicz <[email protected]>
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