Obviously everyone has their own opinion about whether they prefer full EPG
or Now & Later, but remember we need to cater to the majority of *potential*
* *users, not to ourselves. What about if we compare the most popular
devices/software that have some form of EPG and use the most common, or...
Another way to do this would be to offer an option the first time a user
goes into the EPG, something like.. "What viewing style would you like to
use? Full View or Now & Later." (With a default/recommended). Once an option
is selected, a simple notification could pop up saying "Remember, you can
always change this setting in the *main configuration menu*." I would say
this is probably the most user-friendly way.

What do you guys think?

Cheers,
Leptest

2009/7/7 Michał Sawicz <[email protected]>

> Dnia 2009-07-06, pon o godzinie 16:12 -0700, Kevin Fox pisze:
> --8<--
> > > Yeah you're right, IMO in LiveTV it should be the Now & Next by
> > > default,
> > > the full one in recordings.
> >
> > Like I said, I prefer Full over Now&Later, so...
> > It should default to whatever the user left it on. :) That lets them
> > choose which one they like.
>
> But you don't use LiveTV so what's the problem ;). I do use it now and
> then and the full EPG is too bloated for simple 'I now want to watch...
> this!'. When you turn on LiveTV, you don't need all the info right to
> the show that's coming up next and in EPG you often get left with a stub
> of what used to be a programme but only lasts 15 minutes and now you
> only see that... something _was_ there actually.
>
> --8<--
>
> > > Still, being in the player you can have two separate buttons for N&N
> > > and
> > > for the full EPG.
> >
> > This may be more confusing. Need two small icons that relay the fact
> > that they are both EPG and that one is Full and one is Now&Later.
>
> I think the amount of buttons will grow in the player at a steady pace
> with new features, this is inevitable.
>
> I've an idea, though - a 'selector' widget that will take the space of
> one button in the player but when you wait a moment (just like the cog
> appears in other views), other options will show up above and below
> (like here you'd have full EPG and N&N). You will then be able to press
> up/down and the alternatives will move up and down. The selector will
> stay at the previously activated item.
>
> > > Just to be clear, I don't like the two separate paths to it either,
> > > but
> > > I don't like 'go left to go up' even more...
> >
> > I think most people will switch it once, then leave it that way forever,
> > because they like one more then the other. So long as the EPG remembers
> > which one it was last left in it will be great. Why ask every single
> > time which mode you via the menu's, if you usually only want the same
> > mode? Right? Also, I think most people will use Moovida with more then 6
> > buttons on the remote, a keyboard, a mouse, or a touch screen, which its
> > then a nonissue. Having the UI be consistent with the rest of Moovida is
> > worth it I think.
>
> I wouldn't... Just as I said - I'd want the N&N to be available for
> LiveTV and EPG for when I want to maybe set a schedule up.
>
> > There currently is a 'go right to go up' in the UI.' A little different,
> > but similar. 6 buttons on a remote is IMHO suboptimal to begin with and
> > necessitates some UI trade offs like this. I think its preferable to
> > have it work nicely from a touchscreen/mouse/keyboard/7+ button remote,
> > and make sure there is a workable solution for 6 buttons. The split menu
> > like you describe is suboptimal for touchscreen/mouse/keyboard/7+ and
> > only optimal for 6 button. The mode switcher like the rest of the
> > Moovida UI with the buttons in the top right is optimal for all but 6
> > button and still provides a reasonable work around for 6.
>
> Except when you "go right" you go right and up, but when it would be at
> the left, it would be weird to land in a completely different place. As
> the guys @ Fluendo are committed to the 6-button remote and even more to
> usability, I don't think this will get the needed applause. And I
> wouldn't give it either. I'd rather have separate menu entries than
> that. Especially since the two, for me, are meant for two different
> usecases.
>
> --
> Michał Sawicz <[email protected]>
>

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