> Actually they are very different Greg.  Let me explain... and take this
> opportunity to <rant> a bit.  Definitely not personal buddy ;->

Understood and I knew that my post would draw a little flak.  To be 
honest, that's what I intended to some extent.  Now I know a great deal 
more about this project and where Mitel is with the Blade's project. ;-)


> I expect we will hear many viewpoints on list that do not wish to 
> support or encourage developer ideas like this.  

Personally, I don't think any development idea is a bad idea.  Where it 
goes beyond the development stage is another issue.  This is really where 
I was coming from with my post.  I think one of the hardest things for a 
developer to do (including myself) is to step back and look at the big 
picture.  Developers are problem solvers.  When we run across an 
obstacle, we pull out the heavy equipment and move it.  What's on the 
other side isn't always as important as the obstacle itself.

Jaime made several very good points in his reply to my post that didn't 
occur to me -- ESGS 4.x and custom projects are two good examples where 
his project is a very good fit.
 
> Personally I'd like to see open minded developers take a look at Jaime's
> solution and submit ideas to make it better ;->

Agreed!!  From what I can see of Jamie's work, it looks very 
interesting.  

Regards,


-- 
Greg J. Zartman, P.E.
Vice-President

Logging Engineering International, Inc.
1243 West 7th Avenue
Eugene, Oregon 97402
541-683-8383    fax 541-683-8144


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