Hi Dan,

> This all looks like a very interesting tool. Very cool that you are
> developing

  Thanks

> it!  Just to answer a couple of the questions mentioned:
> >     6) We don't know if the blades "code" is closed source.
>
> Blades can be open-source, closed-source, proprietary, whatever. They can
> be licensed under the GPL or any other license.  They can be completely
> free or there can be a charge for them.

  Sorry, I didn't explained myself. I was talking about the blade "system" 
not the blade itself. Can it be made to run on a ESGS 4.1.2 system? Can it be 
dettached from Mitel systems?

> They key is that the blades have been tested and validated by our support
> organization to "play nice" with the base server, so that when they are
> installed by resellers and others out there, they will not cause any
> problems with the server.

  We didn't intend this for "supported" contrib or updates. There are plenty 
of unsupported contribs around that I might like to include even if Mitel 
doesn't support it (for example our own monitor system). Most of them play 
nice with ESGS once you know the little needed tricks.

  I don't expected support from this, just an easy way of sending my future 
clients updates, custom work, whatever.

  As I understand Blades are more powerfull, and in some situations will come 
with official support. What I use is without support, because most probably I 
will be the guy that will give that support :)))

> Believe me, we wish we could have better documentation out there, too!
> We would strongly like to have a whole collection of blades that people
> can download... and we *know* that a good number of you all would package
> things up as soon as we tell you how to.  We know that.  We want that.
>
> The challenge is just carving out the time to get the docs out. There's
> a long story about delays with the document that doesn't really
> matter... the net of it is that we are still working on it... and will
> get more info out as soon as we can.

  I'm sorry Dan but I don't agree here. The "blades concept" was one of the 
main point of SME server (the other one was service link). As I see it is a 
wonderfull toy BUT the only ones playing with it are you. I didn't expect 
Mitel to support those blades I just expected them to tell everybody how to 
play too.

  I'm not really trying to replace the blade concept. I'm just giving an 
alternative. Surely most people will use the standar blades but some people 
might like to have "more freedom". As the upd file is so easy to make I don't 
consider this a double effort (I bet you a blade is not particulary easy to 
make or you wouldn't have delayed so much).

  It took me an hour to explain how to make an upd file and make the 
announcement. Sure it needs some polish (thats what this list is for BTW) and 
I really beleive they can both coexist, one for "Oficial" updates the other 
for "custom" updates.

> In the meantime, Charlie had a previous post that gave some information:
>
>  http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06971.html
>
> Essentially, build a contrib RPM, build a wrapper RPM as Charlie mentions,
> and drop us a note.  I'll be willing to be a contact for potential blades.

  What is a RPM wrapper? :'(

  Regards

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