On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 07:53:03AM +0100, Simon Porter wrote:
> My suggestion,
> 
> Why not have a setup wizard that runs in the browser on first run. This
> is how nearly all php programs setup themselves such osCommerce and
> Kayako heldesk. It would be great to be able to guide users through some
> of the more difficult parts of installation such as port forwarding.
> 
> IMO port forwarding is one of the most difficult things to setup. Most
> users don't even know what it is let alone how to set it up. When I
> first tried out freenet I gave up and left it for a month before trying
> again. It was only after much bugging people on the IRC chat and reading
> through my huge 200 page manual for my ADSL router that I found out.

Yes, it's a big problem. And we have no way to help them, which makes it
worse.
> 
> Here in the UK nearly everyone I know uses an ADSL router to connect to
> the Internet. My experience with friends has been that installing the
> JVM is the easy part. It's port forwarding that is the road block. If I
> even mention it usually people just scratch their head.

Well, that's their problem. Unless you want to maintain a substantial
amount of platform specific code to try to find and reconfigure every
known DSL router - and hope it doesn't have any authentication system,
because the user will have forgotten or lost any login details.
> 
> I think if freenet is to become easy to use then this is one of the
> biggest things to address rather than more eye candy for the fproxy.
> 
> Simon

Well volunteered! Seriously, it's way outside my field of expertise,
it's just possible that there's some free code somewhere that does it,
somebody should google for it.

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