On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 10:24:17AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 04:39:11PM +0100, Toad wrote:
> > No. That is what we do NOW. And what Sun said is ambiguous. We have two
> > links, one to the file with the JVM bundled, one to the one without it.
> > And I was told that the one without it will automatically fetch and run
> > the one with it if there is no JVM. That is exactly what he is asking
> > for above, and we already have it (or do we?). If you are going to
> > assume that our users are epsilon minus semimorons, however, you could
> > make the install process marginally easier to use by simply removing the
> > link to the installer without the JVM.
> 
> Ah yes, because anyone that is unfamiliar with Java must be a moron -
> that must be the attitude that gives Freenet such a reputation for user
> friendliness.
> 
> What is moronic, if what you say is true, is confusing the user by 
> making both installers available when one of them will do the job of 
> both.

IF the smaller installer will automatically chain to the larger
installer when a suitable JVM isn't installed, then I would support
removing the link to the big one, although I still say it's a concession
to the moron party, since somebody might conceivably know that they
don't have a JVM, and want to save some time by downloading the big
installer straight off.
> 
> Ian.
> 
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