Re: [freenet-dev] Re: Anonymity concerns - thwarting timing attacks on the datastore

[Roger Hayter]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Martin Stone Davis 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Roger Hayter wrote:

In message  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Some Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

--- Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 06:52:13PM -0700, Martin
Good point. The term is "on the balance of probabilities". That scares
me - I wonder what sort of probability courts would accept for civil
cases (if they even know what the word probability means, which is by no
means certain in english courts!).


50% in a civil trial.  If I can prove that you "more likely than 
not"  stole 100USD from me in a
civil trial you'll owe me 100USD.  I may not be able to get you sent 
to jail, but I can get my
money.

Yeah that scares me too.

 Would it not be better for deniability if splitfiles were routed and 
cached under one meta key (with a suffix for part number)?  Then, 
whoever requested the split file would naturally go to the best node 
for  that key to get all the parts, and it would be commonplace for 
any node  en route to deal with all the parts.  Perhaps this has some 
disadvantages from the POV of distributing and storing files, but 
would  seem to help the plausible deniability side of things.
I don't think that's necessary.  Fish's and panamerica's "I was 
framed!" idea is a pretty great defense.  Read those recent posts.


1.  If you are accused of pornography or terrorism offences[1] the jury 
is going to be keen to convict you if at all possible.

2.  "I bought it from a man in a pub" and "It fell off the back of a 
lorry"  are popular and plausible defences in UK:  they are rarely 
believed.

3.  Unless you can show a) prevalence of framing behaviour on Freenet 
or, b) you have enemies on Freenet, I don't think being framed is 
enormously credible.  If you have been caught with 2 or more files at 
different times "framing" gets even less credible as a random act of 
malice.

[1]  This could easily arise from browsing mis-labelled Freenet content, 
but this is not necessarily a defence, certainly in UK>
--
Roger Hayter
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