On Friday 15 May 2009 20:04:58 Robert Hailey wrote:
> On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
> > On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> xor schrieb:
> >>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >>>> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> >>>>> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it
> >>>>> manually"
> >>>>> choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
> >>>>
> >>>> You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until
> >>>>> I told
> >>>>> him to set it to allow local addresses on that peer. There
> >>>>> should be a
> >>>>> checkbox when adding a noderef, defaulting to on, "Friend may be
> >>>>> on the
> >>>>> same local network as me" or something. (#3098)
> >>>>
> >>>> This is imho not usual, so i would set this to very low priority
> >>>> and
> >>>> only for advanced mode enabled.
> >>>
> >>> IMHO the current behavior is a "bug" though: We have the MDNS
> >>> plugin,
> >>> which is installed by default and should automatically (opennet-)
> >>> connect
> >>> nodes on a LAN. However it does not work because LAN connections are
> >>> disallowed by default.
> >>
> >> Afaik that plugin is no longer installed by default.
> >
> > Why not? I like the idea of self-organizing Freenet on LANs very
> > much :)
> >
> > Especially if you consider large public or private LANs where two
> > people
> > running Freenet might not even know each others, so they couldn't
> > get manually
> > connected.
>
> Hmmm... but does a node want to advertise that we are running freenet?
> Maybe dependent on the security level setting.

The more people confess that they are running Freenet, the more difficult it 
becomes to blame an individual as guilty for running it.

Further, if you run opennet, you are screwed anyway, and MDNS is mostly useful 
for Opennet.

> In either case, a small network would have major issues if it was not
> also connected to the large network, and so I think still that
> automatically detecting locality based on external ip address would
> help (e.g. a node could preferentially keep any opennet peers that it
> finds as being local).

Wouldn't it take much load off the "internet", i.e. small bandwidth 
connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for routing 
requests if possible?

I think the LAN could behave like a "single large node", i.e. requests for 
data which is stored within the LAN would be answered very fast, and much data 
could be stored if there are many nodes on a LAN.

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