On Tuesday 26 Mar 2013 21:35:58 irfan mir wrote:
> Hello all,
> Apologies for not responding sooner, I've been busy; but, I am now ready to
> give my thoughts ask some questions so that I can continue working on the
> interactions for the security setup.
> 
> So, I believe connection speed and / or bandwidth can be detected with
> Javascript. Would you like to do it that way or through the other
> technology spoken of— I believe it was referred to as UPnP ?

No, I don't see how you can detect bandwidth with Javascript, not without 
involving a third party server anyway. UPnP mostly works though.
> 
> Correct me if I am wrong. Once low-security is selected a dropdown of
> data-store values will appear. I believe the best way to manage a list of
> values from which to choose from is a <select> with each <option> inside it
> being a data-store value.
> Is this just for low-security or will a drop-down of data-store values be
> under each level of security ?
> It was mentioned that there be a text-field whose default / placeholder
> value is the remaining disk space.
> Should I develop a text-field or a drop-down ( mentioned above ) ?
> Or a hybrid that would be a text-field that gets whatever option in the
> dropdown that is chosen as its value.

It should not be the remaining disk space, it's a formula based on a fraction 
of the remaining disk space.

I guess there's no real reason for a drop-down; a text field might be better.
> 
> "Encrypt data: Require a password to decrypt Freenet each time you start
> it. Password: [   ] Confirm: [   ]"
> I like that this question is inspired by a well-established platform (
> Android ). So is this going to be one of the questions asked prior to
> giving security options?

Or to decrypt your downloads. At present, Freenet itself works, just downloads, 
client cache etc don't, until you enter the password.
> 
> Last question, now, I believe the experience / user-flow ( how
> the wizard proceeds ) that has been agreed upon is this:
> 
> ( I just want to make sure which one ).
> 
> Ask questions-->Way questions are answered result in a security level being
> selected--> security options are shown underneath selected security level.

Yes.
> 
> The first one was: security levels presented-->user selects one-->security
> options are shown underneath selected security level.
> 
> Then, after that we had: Ask user questions->choose security option and
> then present security options.
> 
> If the user-flow that I have suggest, the first one, is not what you have
> agreed upon then please choose from one of the previous ones or write your
> own so that I can understand what was agreed upon.
> 
> Thank you for reading and for your time.
> 
> I look forward to hearing from you and thank you for letting me work with
> you all!

I don't see any reason to ask people to choose between low and normal; it 
should be at least as simple as the current wizard. But yes, this looks good.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Irfan Mir.
> 
> 
> On 24 March 2013 13:33, Matthew Toseland <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday 24 Mar 2013 01:00:31 Steve Dougherty wrote:
> > > On 03/23/2013 07:42 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > > Yes, if we're just talking about autodetecting via UPnP, that's
> > > > fine.
> > >
> > > Yes, that's what I mean.
> > >
> > > >> * Omit the list of common Internet connection speeds for the
> > > >> reasons mentioned above.
> > > >
> > > > You omit it in the design you just proposed, don't you? I don't
> > > > follow.
> > >
> > > Yes. Sorry, unclear editing.
> > >
> > > >> For low security: * Datastore size (Dropdown of some values.
> > > >> Could this be a text field?)
> > > >
> > > > It could. Is it a good idea? Certainly we will want to show a
> > > > default. Fortunately there is always a sane default.
> > >
> > > It'd be more flexible. I find not having the ability to set store size
> > > directly in the setup makes me set it to something, then go and resize
> > > it to what I actually wanted.
> > >
> > > What about a text field that is initially populated with the sane
> > > default? By sane default you mean the one based on remaining disk space?
> >
> > Yes, that all sounds fine.
> > >
> > > > Over-complex. We should mention Truecrypt if we're asking for a
> > > > password.
> > >
> > > Hm. Is it clear enough from the perspective of someone using the setup
> > > that setting a password indicates an interest in physical security?
> > >
> > > The way Android asks that question is "Encrypt phone: Require a
> > > numeric PIN or password to decrypt your phone each time you power it on."
> > >
> > > How about "Encrypt data: Require a password to decrypt Freenet each
> > > time you start it. Password: [   ] Confirm: [   ]"
> >
> > Or to decrypt your downloads?
> > >
> > > >>> Finally, I wonder if we want to delay the choice, ask the user
> > > >>> when they start downloading stuff maybe? Not sure...
> > > >>
> > > >> Maybe! Then again I could see some advantage to putting all the
> > > >> setup questions at the start instead of having surprise questions
> > > >> as someone starts trying to use it.
> > > >
> > > > Hmm. Dunno. Ideally we'd A/B test that.
> > >
> > > Is the scenario in question finishing the setup and trying to load a
> > > default bookmark? What's the metric? Annoyance?
> >
> > Whether they actually use Freenet and don't just give up / uninstall / etc
> > yeah :)
> >
> > Completing the wizard is probably the most obvious thing - do we get a
> > functional node?
> > >
> > > > 30 characters may not be long enough to explain some of the things
> > > > we need to ask users about. We should be as concise and clear as
> > > > possible, but clarity is (slightly) more important than
> > > > conciseness.
> > >
> > > Agreed.

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