"No, I don't see how you can detect bandwidth with Javascript, not without involving a third party server anyway. UPnP mostly works though."
Ah, okay. Thank you for clearing that up. It must be connection-speed Javascript can detect then. "It should not be the remaining disk space, it's a formula based on a fraction of the remaining disk space. I guess there's no real reason for a drop-down; a text field might be better." Okay, so the text-field will then get the result of the formula as its placeholder. What language is the formula in? "I don't see any reason to ask people to choose between low and normal; it should be at least as simple as the current wizard. But yes, this looks good." Okay, thank you for the clarifications. I will continue developing it in the fashion discussed. On 27 March 2013 10:42, Matthew Toseland <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tuesday 26 Mar 2013 21:35:58 irfan mir wrote: > > Hello all, > > Apologies for not responding sooner, I've been busy; but, I am now ready > to > > give my thoughts ask some questions so that I can continue working on the > > interactions for the security setup. > > > > So, I believe connection speed and / or bandwidth can be detected with > > Javascript. Would you like to do it that way or through the other > > technology spoken of— I believe it was referred to as UPnP ? > > No, I don't see how you can detect bandwidth with Javascript, not without > involving a third party server anyway. UPnP mostly works though. > > > > Correct me if I am wrong. Once low-security is selected a dropdown of > > data-store values will appear. I believe the best way to manage a list of > > values from which to choose from is a <select> with each <option> inside > it > > being a data-store value. > > Is this just for low-security or will a drop-down of data-store values be > > under each level of security ? > > It was mentioned that there be a text-field whose default / placeholder > > value is the remaining disk space. > > Should I develop a text-field or a drop-down ( mentioned above ) ? > > Or a hybrid that would be a text-field that gets whatever option in the > > dropdown that is chosen as its value. > > It should not be the remaining disk space, it's a formula based on a > fraction of the remaining disk space. > > I guess there's no real reason for a drop-down; a text field might be > better. > > > > "Encrypt data: Require a password to decrypt Freenet each time you start > > it. Password: [ ] Confirm: [ ]" > > I like that this question is inspired by a well-established platform ( > > Android ). So is this going to be one of the questions asked prior to > > giving security options? > > Or to decrypt your downloads. At present, Freenet itself works, just > downloads, client cache etc don't, until you enter the password. > > > > Last question, now, I believe the experience / user-flow ( how > > the wizard proceeds ) that has been agreed upon is this: > > > > ( I just want to make sure which one ). > > > > Ask questions-->Way questions are answered result in a security level > being > > selected--> security options are shown underneath selected security > level. > > Yes. > > > > The first one was: security levels presented-->user selects > one-->security > > options are shown underneath selected security level. > > > > Then, after that we had: Ask user questions->choose security option and > > then present security options. > > > > If the user-flow that I have suggest, the first one, is not what you have > > agreed upon then please choose from one of the previous ones or write > your > > own so that I can understand what was agreed upon. > > > > Thank you for reading and for your time. > > > > I look forward to hearing from you and thank you for letting me work with > > you all! > > I don't see any reason to ask people to choose between low and normal; it > should be at least as simple as the current wizard. But yes, this looks > good. > > > > Best Regards, > > Irfan Mir. > > > > > > On 24 March 2013 13:33, Matthew Toseland <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 24 Mar 2013 01:00:31 Steve Dougherty wrote: > > > > On 03/23/2013 07:42 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > > > Yes, if we're just talking about autodetecting via UPnP, that's > > > > > fine. > > > > > > > > Yes, that's what I mean. > > > > > > > > >> * Omit the list of common Internet connection speeds for the > > > > >> reasons mentioned above. > > > > > > > > > > You omit it in the design you just proposed, don't you? I don't > > > > > follow. > > > > > > > > Yes. Sorry, unclear editing. > > > > > > > > >> For low security: * Datastore size (Dropdown of some values. > > > > >> Could this be a text field?) > > > > > > > > > > It could. Is it a good idea? Certainly we will want to show a > > > > > default. Fortunately there is always a sane default. > > > > > > > > It'd be more flexible. I find not having the ability to set store > size > > > > directly in the setup makes me set it to something, then go and > resize > > > > it to what I actually wanted. > > > > > > > > What about a text field that is initially populated with the sane > > > > default? By sane default you mean the one based on remaining disk > space? > > > > > > Yes, that all sounds fine. > > > > > > > > > Over-complex. We should mention Truecrypt if we're asking for a > > > > > password. > > > > > > > > Hm. Is it clear enough from the perspective of someone using the > setup > > > > that setting a password indicates an interest in physical security? > > > > > > > > The way Android asks that question is "Encrypt phone: Require a > > > > numeric PIN or password to decrypt your phone each time you power it > on." > > > > > > > > How about "Encrypt data: Require a password to decrypt Freenet each > > > > time you start it. Password: [ ] Confirm: [ ]" > > > > > > Or to decrypt your downloads? > > > > > > > > >>> Finally, I wonder if we want to delay the choice, ask the user > > > > >>> when they start downloading stuff maybe? Not sure... > > > > >> > > > > >> Maybe! Then again I could see some advantage to putting all the > > > > >> setup questions at the start instead of having surprise questions > > > > >> as someone starts trying to use it. > > > > > > > > > > Hmm. Dunno. Ideally we'd A/B test that. > > > > > > > > Is the scenario in question finishing the setup and trying to load a > > > > default bookmark? What's the metric? Annoyance? > > > > > > Whether they actually use Freenet and don't just give up / uninstall / > etc > > > yeah :) > > > > > > Completing the wizard is probably the most obvious thing - do we get a > > > functional node? > > > > > > > > > 30 characters may not be long enough to explain some of the things > > > > > we need to ask users about. We should be as concise and clear as > > > > > possible, but clarity is (slightly) more important than > > > > > conciseness. > > > > > > > > Agreed. > -- Regards, Irfan Mir.
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