Hi Ian,

I just want to contribute where I can to ensure we stretch these funds the
best we can. Since we have the ability to do it for free (unlike the design
work), I think we should.

I've done similar conversions for a good number of one-off event landing
pages (+0-2 auxiliary pages) for my previous employer as a minor duty. If
you want to see something I suppose when I get home I can link my
in-progress port of the Winterface theme to Fred.

Luckily though, it's extremely easy to evaluate the quality of the result,
if the community doesn't like what I produce, by all means pay somebody,
and all it cost was a little bit of time. On the other hand, this will save
a substantial amount of money for this cash strapped project.

I can tell from your email though, that you place a high value on
turnaround time, so on the other hand what are the competing bids in time
and money for this work? If there's an external deadline I'm unaware of,
that certainly changes things. Otherwise, especially given the length of
time things have remained...less-than-ideal... I see *very* little risk,
and good rewards, for trying volunteer work first.

Cheers,
Dan

On Sep 5, 2016 11:48 AM, "Ian Clarke" <i...@freenetproject.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 1:04 PM, Dan Roberts ademan...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> > The designer will now need feedback as she works to create a final set of
>
> > Photoshop files, which will include both the landing page, and a "detail"
>
> page
>
> > which will serve as a template for other pages on the site.
>
> > After that, I have identified a number of coders who can take these
> files,
>
> > convert to HTML, and then publish them on Github using
>
> https://jekyllrb.com/.
>
>
>
>
> I want to reiterate that I don't think we should spend any money on
>
> translating from photoshop to html, unless it's a *very* small amount. The
>
> ~$200 you've mentioned before is about the highest price where I think
>
> "well maybe it's worth it to have somebody else do this". This is a common
>
> skill, and I am personally willing to volunteer in this regard. At worst we
>
> could pay somebody later if volunteers can't get it done satisfactorily. (I
>
> don't believe a delay like that would be damaging)
>
>
>
>
> If we have a volunteer with the appropriate skillset and time availability
> that
> is willing to do it then great, I agree we shouldn't spend the money.
> However,
> if this becomes a blocker or if the volunteer isn't working to a high
> standard
> then I think it is worth it to spend money on it.  Honestly, I think it
> will pay
> for itself in a few months with increased donations.
> That is generous of you to volunteer, can you point to examples of work
> you've
> done in the past of this nature?  How much time can you devote to it, and
> on
> what timescale?  Are you comfortable working with jekyll?  Do you think
> jekyll
> is the right tool for the job here?
>
>
> Unlike developing the actual design, we can easily evaluate whether us
> volunteers have adequately converted the photoshop to html+jekyll. We paid
>
> designers for their aesthetic sense, but with this conversion the community
>
> has all of the skills required to both execute this and evaluate this.
>
>
>
>
> I agree, provided that this doesn't bog down the process, I would hope to
> have
> the new site up in 2 weeks or less.
> Ian.
> Ian Clarke
> Founder, The Freenet Project
> Email: i...@freenetproject.org
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