On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 05:58:23PM +0000, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > Um, no.
> > "Um, no" to what?  There were a few suggestions in that paragraph.
> No, we cannot make splitfiles transparent by default. Because the user
> will not see ANY data transferred until we have a full segment with the
> current FEC implementation.

Which is precicely why I suggested that we provide an alternate 
mechanism, namely an Infolet, through which they can determine the 
progress of their downloads.  I think this is more elegant than some 
kind of duct-tape Javascript/Frames arrangement as we had last time, if 
you need me to explain why, then I am happy to go into more detail.

> > What do you mean by "bring up" the GUI?
> Does it make more sense now? I mean the splitfile downloader interface.

Yes.


> > I know.  My question is, when will there be?  IIRC we agreed that this 
> > kind of functionality belongs in FCP.
> Eh? I never saw any such agreement, but even if we do agree that it
> would be a good idea to spec out live streaming, that does not
> automatically mean we need to support proxying it to any particular
> format in fproxy.

I am not suggesting that we need to support any particular format in 
FProxy, although it would be nice.  As a first step, I am referring to 
supporting it with FCP.

> Additionally, I don't think it's very practical for
> the capture/insertion tool to be written in java, because it will either
> have to read continuously from the sound card, or integrate with
> something like icecast.

If Python can do it (Fishtools), then I am pretty sure Java can do it 
too.  IIRC the protocols used by Icecast are fairly simple.  The Java 
code wouldn't read from the soundcard directly, rather it would 
receive an incoming stream from some code which does (as does 
Fishtools).  This not-only gets around the problem of lack of microphone 
support in Java 1.1, but is also more flexible.

Ian.

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