On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 01:40:33PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > > There is no javascript required. And what is wrong with frames? We need > > to allow the user to configure it to be transparent, but with the > > current situation we absolutely must not have the user's first > > experience of splitfiles with freenet be clicking on the link and half > > an hour later cancelling it because it still hasn't downloaded A SINGLE > > BYTE, with no other immediately obvious feedback. > > There are other ways to offer feedback which are less obtrusive and more > in-keeping with what the user is accustomed to. See my previous email. > > > > If Python can do it (Fishtools), then I am pretty sure Java can do it > > > too. IIRC the protocols used by Icecast are fairly simple. The Java > > > code wouldn't read from the soundcard directly, rather it would > > > receive an incoming stream from some code which does (as does > > > Fishtools). This not-only gets around the problem of lack of microphone > > > support in Java 1.1, but is also more flexible. > > > Java has pipes? > > Where exactly did I say or imply that Java has pipes? > > > prove to me that java has support for > > pipes and I might take your argument seriously. > > Wow - I see you have picked up one of Oskar's less appealing habits, > namely arrogance and unprovoked rudeness, and at such a young age too. > Being wrong is fine, but being arrogant while being wrong is pretty > silly behavior. I'm not wrong. It is probably possible to hack icecast up to a java insertor, but it is probably a major pain and requires JNI or other crap. > > Anyway, perhaps you should prove to me that you are understanding a word > I say, and I might be inclined to take *YOUR* argument seriously. Your > whole pipes rant doesn't bode well. > > I was, of course, referring to TCP/IP sockets, not *nix pipes - this > would have been obvious if you had ever used anything like IceCast. Ah, so Icecast broadcasts RTSP, and then we pick up the RTSP, reassemble it into what amounts to a plain ogg, FEC that and insert it? Sounds efficient, elegant and fast :). > > Ian. > > -- > Ian Clarke ian@[freenetproject.org|locut.us|cematics.com] > Latest Project http://cematics.com/kanzi > Personal Homepage http://locut.us/
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