Ian Clarke skrev:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:05 AM, xor <xor at gmx.li <mailto:xor at gmx.li>> 
> wrote:
> 
>     We DO NOT need a new web interface. Our current web interface is easy to
>     use, works well, is sufficient, and it is also easy to write plugins
>     which
>     use it - I've worked with it for WoT and Freetalk and it was fun.
> 
> 
> I hope this is true, but I'm skeptical.  I'd recomend getting some 
> non-techies to try Freenet, without guidance from you, and to point out 
> anything in the web interface that doesn't make sense.  I'd like to 
> think that they won't find anything to point to, but I doubt it :-)
> 
> We're all steeped in a pretty good understanding of Freenet, and the 
> terminology used, but newbies aren't.  A term that makes perfect sense 
> to us, such as Matthew's use of the term "node" in the progress page, is 
> likely to confuse newbies.
> 
> I think to create a good UI, we need to mistrust our personal 
> perceptions of what makes sense, because, frankly, we aren't our target 
> audience.  I'd encourage everyone to find newbies whenever possible, and 
> watch them install and try to use Freenet, reporting any issues they run 
> into to this list, or as bugs.  Get them to give you a narrative of what 
> they see ("not sure what that button does" or "hmm, not sure what I'm 
> supposed to do now"), and report it.  Anything you need to explain to 
> them is a *bug*, because most of our future users won't have you sitting 
> there to explain it.
> 
> I'd prefer to avoid a ground-up redesign of the UI too, but for anyone 
> that wants to work on the UI, please grab a friend or relative 
> unfamiliar with Freenet, and watch them trying to install or use it.
> 
> Ian.

Random comment from me:

As far as I know (I might be wrong - if so, please correct me) it is 
nearly impossible to mod fproxy without digging into java code.

I still think it would be a good idea to have a theming engine, or at 
the very least an easily available CSS file so people actually *can* 
work on fproxy design without having to recompile the whole thing.

- Zero3

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